The Legend vs repro-1

[nordickvr]

...I don't want them to clash (Waves, e-licenser, ..etc). I have no iLok related product installed now.

Iirc, Xils offers the choice between eLicenser and iLok.

Oh! Good to know! Thanks! I'll check then poly kb demo now

Don't want to extra influence but... PolyKB II, III, are simply awsome synths!
Edit : damn, exmatproton was to fast.

[EnGee]

@exmatproton and @nordickvr:

I have demoed PolyKB III and it is really very good synth, but it felt too much analog for me! I mean the instability in the sound is all over the place (at least this is what I felt from the presets). Anyway, it has its special uses of course, but at the moment I'm not looking for Polyphonic synth really. I need a synth for cutting and sharp analogish leads and basses. I already have Monark, but I want one with a different character, so I bought ....

RePro~1!! Yes!!

Yes, I had an offer to buy it for $79 (with taxes) but I didn't do it. I feel glad even if I pay now extra (~ $113 USD). The synth really deserves that. Now, if I sell something, I will be buying The Legend (I already got Dune 2 ).

So, Let me feed my mind that manual tonight. My mind says "Yammy!!"

Edit: Some clarification about The Legend. My expression was wrong!

[AnX]

Monosynths people want so far:

None.

[AnX]

Would love u-he to build a real hrdware analog synth! Since working with figuring out analog for vst im sure they know what to bring out in an hardware synth to make it a killer. Also just to be able to touch their synths wohld be a blast

Yeah...imagine we could get our hands on a hardware version of repro1

[ghettosynth]

Monosynths people want so far:

None.

I'm going to have to get my Cat plugged in this week in Studio A (A is for analog). I feel like I'm really missing that sound. For an awful lot of electronica it really is about the monophonic sounds. It has to do with that character of a single note in a chain vs the mush of a chord, especially when it's dirty. This is not unlike the issue of guitar chords losing definition with certain distortion and one of the reasons that people like to experiment with hex fuzz.

I feel like any monosynth with enough character could eventually end up as modules in Diva, I hope anyway. I am WAY more excited about getting the Synthex filter in Diva than I am about getting Repro-5.

People wanted polyphony in the 70s because they didn't have it, not because it was the end all and be all of synth sound. A lot of music was done throughout the 80s and 90s with monophonic synths. The character of the TB-303 is almost dependent on it being mono really, you will lose the detail of the slide trying to use it in a polyphonic way.

[ghettosynth]

Would love u-he to build a real hrdware analog synth! Since working with figuring out analog for vst im sure they know what to bring out in an hardware synth to make it a killer. Also just to be able to touch their synths wohld be a blast

Yeah...imagine we could get our hands on a hardware version of repro1

I know right, how cool would that be! LOL! Anyway, what any hardware synth needs in 2017 is a turbo, you're just not going to get that in-sound without one.

[AnX]

I feel like any monosynth with enough character could eventually end up as modules in Diva, I hope anyway.

More than happy about that. More freedom, more sound creativity (mixing osc/filter/envs of diff synths). Not happy about emulations that emulate restrictions. Thats a step backwards imo.

[AnX]

The character of the TB-303 is almost dependent on it being mono really, you will lose the detail of the slide trying to use it in a polyphonic way.

True, but i can get a 303 sound on a soft poly synth by switching to mono and careful sequencing. Its close enough for me, and im quite fussy about 303 sounds.

[Teksonik]

People wanted polyphony in the 70s because they didn't have it,

No they wanted polyphony just like they wanted to be able to play chords on a guitar or a piano. When I worked in the keyboard department of a music store in the late 80's not one customer ever asked me for a mono synth. They were simply outdated by that time.....even more so now. True, mono synths are great for leads and basses and arpeggiator playing which is why most poly softsynths have a mono mode. But restricting softsynths to mono only just makes very little sense these days.....

[ghettosynth]

People wanted polyphony in the 70s because they didn't have it,

No they wanted polyphony just like they wanted to be able to play chords on a guitar or a piano.

Right, which they couldn't do with most synths of the day, that's what I said.

When I worked in the keyboard department of a music store in the late 80's not one customer ever asked me for a mono synth.

No doubt, they were viewed as outdated then. People in the electronic scene snapped them up. I know, I was there, the bulk of my analog studio comes from that period and I bought my synths in those very same music stores. I knew your customers then, they sold those synths to me for super cheap. That was then, it was not the early eighties when new wave was in, nor was it the mid 90s and beyond when those synths skyrocketed in price and people wanted to buy them back from me.

My point was clear, monosynths are very popular in the electronic scene now as they were in the new wave era, yes people had polysynths as well, but that didn't stop groups from really using and embracing monosynths. The majority of analog synths on offer at your local GC are monosynths. Most modulars are monosynths, at least in practice. It has always been at the core of EDM (the umbrella term, not the current misuse of the term as a genre). House, Techno, Trance, rely heavily on monophonic parts.. Sure, people want chords, but there's no shortage of synths that play chords. What there is a shortage of is really deep and interesting synth models.

But restricting softsynths to mono only just makes very little sense these days.....

To you. It makes virtually no difference to a lot of people, if they're honest. I don't think it's actually the true limitation that some of you are presenting, I think that it's mostly psychological. You can't play chords so you want to. I bet if it was released in a poly variant as is people would scream bloody murder because of the CPU usage.

The thing is polysynths take more work, Urs has said as much. So I see the value of monosynths in the market as a way of allowing one of the best devs in the business to create more of something that's actually missing, great models of analogue synths.

[.jon]

Well, I would love to plaster Dave's name all over this synth (and Doug's certainly too), but I'm sure I'd commit and act of copyright infringement if I did so, maybe even an act of unfair competition.

So yeah, unfortunately I can't

It's not an infringement if you have the owner's permission.

[Teksonik]

I don't think it's actually the true limitation that some of you are presenting, I think that it's mostly psychological. You can't play chords so you want to..

Utter nonsense. I want to play chords because I want to play chords so all the softsynths I own are polyphonic with the option for mono mode. Of course limiting the number of notes you can play is a limitation. I think it's just psychological that you prefer mono synths.

The thing is polysynths take more work, Urs has said as much..

He said that poly versions of mono synths would cut into sales of his flagship products. Obviously poly versions of DIVA, Zebra, Hive, Bazille etc were not too much work. If the desire is to pump out inexpensive emulations of easy to clone mono synths with no poly mode in order to not interfere with sales of other products is the plan then go for it but I'd much rather have more capable instruments which will as expected cost more. Every minute those "best devs in the business" spend emulating yet another mono synth is a minute they are not working on more capable products.

So I see the value of monosynths in the market as a way of allowing one of the best devs in the business to create more of something that's actually missing, great models of analogue synths.

Missing ? How many mono analogs do we need ? Like I said every synth I own now has a mono mode. The "great analogue synths" are polyphonic with a few exceptions such as over priced and under powered modulars.

But if mono only synths still amuse you then party on......I outgrew them long ago......

Good night.........

[Urs]

Well, I would love to plaster Dave's name all over this synth (and Doug's certainly too), but I'm sure I'd commit and act of copyright infringement if I did so, maybe even an act of unfair competition.

So yeah, unfortunately I can't

It's not an infringement if you have the owner's permission.

Oh My God. Of course

Here's the thing: For what we did we don't need anyone's permission, because we have not infringed on anyone's copyrights in any way. We lifted some maths off some patents that have run out, just like the pharamcy industry does when suddenly medication goes cheap. Remember when herpes creme cost 50 bucks?

[AnX]

Viagra is dirt cheap now

[AnX]

Well, I would love to plaster Dave's name all over this synth (and Doug's certainly too), but I'm sure I'd commit and act of copyright infringement if I did so, maybe even an act of unfair competition.

So yeah, unfortunately I can't

It's not an infringement if you have the owner's permission.

He would want a cut tho...