Trust me, I didn't.egbert101 wrote:I can understand why Massive and Sylenth1 are there, because of their influence and recognizable sound, even if their features and quality don't match the others. However the title 'Blow Most Hardware Synths' seems to be more hyperbole, so as to get people to click the link, so I wouldn't take it too seriously.wagtunes wrote:Given the discussion, I think this is relevant. Notice what's listed and what's not listed.
Now, I'm not saying I agree with this list. In fact, there are some on it that I find highly questionable. But that's just my opinion. Still, as meaningless as these biased lists are, I found this interesting.
https://ask.audio/articles/7-virtual-sy ... -the-water
The Legend vs repro-1
- KVRAF
- 22871 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
- Banned
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I dont use any of those synthswagtunes wrote:Given the discussion, I think this is relevant. Notice what's listed and what's not listed.
Now, I'm not saying I agree with this list. In fact, there are some on it that I find highly questionable. But that's just my opinion. Still, as meaningless as these biased lists are, I found this interesting.
https://ask.audio/articles/7-virtual-sy ... -the-water
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
AFAIK, only two synths reached more than 100.000 units sold: The Yamaha DX7 and the Korg M1 (respectively the number 2 and number 1 all time sales recordists). Nevertheless, I had in mind something like 40.000 Minis (maybe confusing with 14.000, I don't know). I find 12.000 a very strange number for a synth with a lifespan of 12 years, but that's what is in the sources I found.egbert101 wrote: Haha, for some reason I was thinking Minimoogs were sold in the hundred thousands. Probably confusing Minimoogs with the DX7.
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- KVRAF
- 12438 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
What were the cost of both items back in the day? If a new Minimoog cost $1,5000 and Pro-One cost half that, it could also have factored in.
- KVRAF
- 22871 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
In my neck of the woods you could buy a new Minimoog for about $1,250 which was a nice markdown from the $1,495 suggested manufacturer's retail price. This also depended on where you went. If you went to the larger stores in the area, like Sam Ash, you would most likely find the discount. If you went to a local small store, expect to pay closer to the retail price.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:What were the cost of both items back in the day? If a new Minimoog cost $1,5000 and Pro-One cost half that, it could also have factored in.
Even for $1,250, that was way too much money for me back then so I settled for a Moog Sonic Six which set me back $600.
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
I can't remember (was never interested in SCI synths, can't explain why) but I think it would cost more or less the same or close to $1.500 (more than $1.000 almost for sure)
Fernando (FMR)
- KVRAF
- 2397 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
Repro-1 is a fantastic synth!!
Dune 3 presets! - https://newloops.com/collections/dune-presets
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Diva, Hive, Repro, Presets - https://newloops.com/collections/u-he-synths-presets
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35419 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Plus how did actual market change over those 12 years? After all wasnt the Mini pretty much the first consumer-oriented production-line synth? It certainly didnt have a ready-made market, Moog pretty much had to pioneer that. And how did Moog's production line capability and distribution change over that period, in and of itself and compared to that for more modern synths?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:What were the cost of both items back in the day? If a new Minimoog cost $1,5000 and Pro-One cost half that, it could also have factored in.
There's actually a lot of factors to consider, if you think about it.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- Beware the Quoth
- 35419 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
The Pro-One was something announced as being $750 it appears. But it also depends when that Minimoog RRP was $1500. $1500 in 1971 is a bit different from $750 in $1981.wagtunes wrote:In my neck of the woods you could buy a new Minimoog for about $1,250 which was a nice markdown from the $1,495 suggested manufacturer's retail price. This also depended on where you went. If you went to the larger stores in the area, like Sam Ash, you would most likely find the discount. If you went to a local small store, expect to pay closer to the retail price.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:What were the cost of both items back in the day? If a new Minimoog cost $1,5000 and Pro-One cost half that, it could also have factored in.
Even for $1,250, that was way too much money for me back then so I settled for a Moog Sonic Six which set me back $600.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRAF
- 2258 posts since 25 Jun, 2008 from Montreal, Canada
Urs, what's your opinion of kickstarter? It's good to see if people are really interested.Urs wrote:For the effort that went into its creation - yes it is.AnX wrote:$99 isnt cheap for a monosynth.
However, as I have said repeatedly, the Pro-One is the most difficult to model mono synth. Almost anything else we'd have done would've been way below 99$, with the exception of the Cat maybe.
- KVRAF
- 4206 posts since 13 Jun, 2014
Kickstarter is also good for running off with the profits without producing anything.xx JPRacer xx wrote: Urs, what's your opinion of kickstarter? It's good to see if people are really interested.
I'm sure Urs is an honourable man, but even so, Kickstarter is a bad idea in most cases.
<list your stupid gear here>
- KVRAF
- 2258 posts since 25 Jun, 2008 from Montreal, Canada
I've hard a lot of good and bad things about kickstarter. But I don't think Urs (and u-he) would want to lose its good name and reputation by running off with the profits.egbert101 wrote:Kickstarter is also good for running off with the profits without producing anything.xx JPRacer xx wrote: Urs, what's your opinion of kickstarter? It's good to see if people are really interested.
I'm sure Urs is an honourable man, but even so, Kickstarter is a bad idea in most cases.
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- KVRian
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- 1107 posts since 30 Jun, 2015
nice but the beats feels very off at places like thisglatos wrote:HEY GUYS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS RELEASE?
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Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936
- KVRian
- 1187 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
This is a good number for a mono synth with a high price tag. Imagine the DX7 had been monophonic, for sure it would never have sold more than 100.000 units back then.fmr wrote:AFAIK, only two synths reached more than 100.000 units sold: The Yamaha DX7 and the Korg M1 (respectively the number 2 and number 1 all time sales recordists). Nevertheless, I had in mind something like 40.000 Minis (maybe confusing with 14.000, I don't know). I find 12.000 a very strange number for a synth with a lifespan of 12 years, but that's what is in the sources I found.
Richard
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