MOK Waverazor

[db3]

This reminds me of the dentist

[Triplefox]

What all the demos are missing is a useful oscillator-level modulation. The reason why this thing doesn't sound different enough yet is basically because any single cycle waveform by itself is something you could hear on a wavetable. Adding envelopes and filter isn't enough: even sample playback tends to come off sounding brittle if it's just one voice being pitched up or down, and not a layer of them.

Hence most architectures gravitate towards an oscillator color option that adds new sidebands, such as sync, AM, FM, PWM, or waveshaping - something that will kick it out of the single-cycle, polite-and-perfect zone. Once you add that, the timbre can go through chaotic, rapid evolution and give some dynamic results. But we don't see that here - the demo has many ways to evolve through different single cycles, but that's too controlled. If the release lets the three oscillators be linked via FM, though, watch out! That would truly make it deserving of the name.

[Vospi]

Serum (and even Massive) can do A LOT of stuff from this video (I hesitate to say all), simple and easy, yet again. And it has bandlimited oscs, which matters for this kind of dentist sounds very much.

Don't judge synths solely by your... emotional impression. How - on - Earth does this compare to Aalto? What are structural similarities?

[Biome_Digital]

Looks interesting.

[wickfut]

Looks right up my street to be honest. No official website or other info yet?

[nordickvr]

Looks right up my street to be honest. No official website or other info yet?

http://www.mok.com

[MillerSam]

It's not a wavetable synth

[liv]

Looks interesting to me.
Maybe I'm missing something obvious here but I didn't see it. Would be interesting to see the envelopes, what types, how many and how they can be used.

[wagtunes]

It's not a wavetable synth

A few points.

1) Much more informative video than the first one, especially if you listened all the way to the end. You can get quite a few interesting timbers out of this thing and, for the most part, excellent quality.

2) A bit of a gamble on purchasing. The $75 is just for what you're seeing now. It doesn't include the eventual UI and everything else that will ultimately make this a synth. So if you invest early, you're banking on them actually coming out with a usable synth and relatively soon.

3) Having said that, if this synth turns out to be as great as I think it can be (the potential is obvious to me) the $150 price tag of the finished product will still be more than a fair price. For me personally, a $75 investment, even if it turns out that all I get is this one little part, is worth the risk. I understand that not everybody will feel the same way, and with good reasons. There's no guarantee the finished product will even work on any particular OS or DAW. So yeah, it's a big gamble.

I'm not going to argue for or against their business model. Ultimately, the market will decide if it works or not. Personally, I'm as excited about this as I was about Flexion after seeing this video because the potential is there. No question.

I am curious as to what others think.

[wickfut]

I am curious as to what others think.

I also play video games. I've got a reasonably large Steam library , a lot of which are sold as "early access" and looked like they'd be great on the promo video. They generally ended up as abandoned bug ridden broken promises.

Paying near the price of a regular VST for content which may or may not happen, especially when you can't hold devs accountable for refunds afterwards is taking the piss.

[pottering]

It is not even for sale yet (unlike Early Access in Steam), put down your pitchforks.

[zerocrossing]

you guys have no clue, do you?

I think not everyone likes the type of aggressive sounds you get from osc sync/cross mod, osc filter mod, like you and I do. That's fine. I don't personally see the need for this synth in my own world as I already have a bunch of very good synths that do it well and a lot more. Maybe I need to hear more, but my first impression was, "Oh cool, it sounds like a Reaktor blocks thing I made a while ago."

[wagtunes]

you guys have no clue, do you?

I think not everyone likes the type of aggressive sounds you get from osc sync/cross mod, osc filter mod, like you and I do. That's fine. I don't personally see the need for this synth in my own world as I already have a bunch of very good synths that do it well and a lot more. Maybe I need to hear more, but my first impression was, "Oh cool, it sounds like a Reaktor blocks thing I made a while ago."

In fairness, how many synths are going to come out, at this point in time in our history, that are going to make us go "Wow, I have never heard anything like that in my life" and be truly breakthrough wiz bang sound wise?

I think it's highly unlikely, though nobody can predict the future. It's just very difficult, for me anyway, to be amazingly impressed by a synth's sound. Like a sound? Even love a sound? Sure. But not at any level of "OMG, how did you make that sound?"

I think those days are long behind us.

[jbuonacc]

you guys have no clue, do you?

I think not everyone likes the type of aggressive sounds you get from osc sync/cross mod, osc filter mod, like you and I do. That's fine.

maybe... or maybe they just don't even know wtf they're looking at until someone else does something cool with it. then it'll be the greatest thing since the last greatest thing that they needed someone else to show them the value of. this place has the highest ratio of opinionated veteran n00bs that i've ever seen.

I don't personally see the need for this synth in my own world as I already have a bunch of very good synths that do it well and a lot more. Maybe I need to hear more, but my first impression was, "Oh cool, it sounds like a Reaktor blocks thing I made a while ago."

whether or not the actual end product sounds different enough to justify it, nothing else does what this thing does. the closest thing that i can think of is 'Wiggle', which is probably too far out of a concept itself for most people to get excited for. Serum, Massive, etc can NOT do what this thing is doing. that was dead obvious from the very first video, i didn't need to see anything more than that. (i do agree that all these videos are depressingly underwhelming, though that last one was certainly the best of them.) this thing is obviously capable of all sorts of sounds, from ugly to beautiful.

while some synths (including your 'R6 Blocks' creation) might be able to sort of pull off an approximation, even close enough to be "happy with" when it comes down to it, they're just not doing the same thing. whether that matters in the end or not is up to the individual, but i know i'll be lining up for this thing on day one if i have the extra cash at that point. hard to get excited about a synth that you don't like the looks of though. yuck.

[dune_rave]

Ok, this is a new synth. Maybe this is a new type of synthesis.
But I have a feeling that the RP RAW synth makes better distorted crazy sounds.