Applied Acoustics Systems announces OBJEQ Delay

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DJ Warmonger wrote:As much I love AAS stuff, I don't see a purpose to putting their resonator on a delay :shrug: . Ableton Corpus is enough for me.
For those who do not use Live, this certainly could be enticing. Corpus can produce some stunning sounds, I wonder how far Corpus-like this resonator is.

Some of the brief examples in the video are superb. It looks like a very creative effect.
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electro wrote:IK's Modo Bass puts AAS PM to shame.
...well, not really, ...different ballpark IMO, because the conception of Modo Bass is clearly bounded to electric bass emulations accurately as possible with all kind of hybridations offered, any product of AAS, even Lounge Lizard, can be tweaked to be pushed (far) beyond it primary target

More generic PM, me thinks...

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Much better to do just one thing and do it thorough IMO.

Pianoteq and MODO Bass are two choice examples. Who needs to get exotic synth sounds out of something like Pianoteq or Lounge Lizard, really?
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Anyone know when this is due? JRR anticipated a release in March but ... well I guess it won't be March !

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whyterabbyt wrote:
BDeep wrote:Hmmm seems to me that Live Tassman users can sort of constr
uct this by using Corpus followed by two delays Tassman
FTFY

Although it has to be said, what an excellent business model... Start off with a standalone softsynth based on the stuff you did in your PhD thesis. Make V2 a rewrite that turns it into plugin. Make V3 a complete, backwards-incompatible rewrite of V2 that actually adds zero functionality but breaks everybody's projects and patches. Make V4 a rewrite that adds nothing except a rewrite of the browser, breaking everybody's projects and patches.

Then, whilst not ever admitting that you've pretty much got nowhere new to take your synthesis engine, hint vaguely at an exciting new product that everyone hopes is V5 of your flagship, recycle it piecemeal, releasing one new simple fixed-path patch as a separate plugins after another, year after year, selling your flagship in bits all over again.

Then, whilst not ever admitting that you've pretty much got nowhere new to take your synthesis engine, hint vaguely at an exciting new product that everyone hopes is V5 of your flagship, just rewrite all of those spun-off patches with nothing but a new UI and a couple of effects and sell them all over again.

And then when over a decade has passed since you last did anything vaguely new, whilst not ever admitting that you've pretty much got nowhere new to take your synthesis engine, hint vaguely at an exciting new product that everyone hopes is V5 of your flagship, then start a whole new cycle of recycling, reducing the fixed-path patches into smaller effects still and sell them all over again. Whilst still refusing to admit that you have nothing new to put into T5.

I for one am looking forward to the 'Analog Filter', 'String Resonator' and 'Lounge Tremelo' effects.
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dayjob wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
BDeep wrote:Hmmm seems to me that Live Tassman users can sort of constr
uct this by using Corpus followed by two delays Tassman
FTFY

Although it has to be said, what an excellent business model... Start off with a standalone softsynth based on the stuff you did in your PhD thesis. Make V2 a rewrite that turns it into plugin. Make V3 a complete, backwards-incompatible rewrite of V2 that actually adds zero functionality but breaks everybody's projects and patches. Make V4 a rewrite that adds nothing except a rewrite of the browser, breaking everybody's projects and patches.

Then, whilst not ever admitting that you've pretty much got nowhere new to take your synthesis engine, hint vaguely at an exciting new product that everyone hopes is V5 of your flagship, recycle it piecemeal, releasing one new simple fixed-path patch as a separate plugins after another, year after year, selling your flagship in bits all over again.

Then, whilst not ever admitting that you've pretty much got nowhere new to take your synthesis engine, hint vaguely at an exciting new product that everyone hopes is V5 of your flagship, just rewrite all of those spun-off patches with nothing but a new UI and a couple of effects and sell them all over again.

And then when over a decade has passed since you last did anything vaguely new, whilst not ever admitting that you've pretty much got nowhere new to take your synthesis engine, hint vaguely at an exciting new product that everyone hopes is V5 of your flagship, then start a whole new cycle of recycling, reducing the fixed-path patches into smaller effects still and sell them all over again. Whilst still refusing to admit that you have nothing new to put into T5.

I for one am looking forward to the 'Analog Filter', 'String Resonator' and 'Lounge Tremelo' effects.
just finished counting all the votes and this is post of the month 3 months running.

I didn't pay much for Tassman. I bought it very cheap from someone at KVR who came to the conclusion that it ain't ever going to be updated. I would never pay full price for it but it's able to produce sounds of remarkable quality that have stood the test of time, in fact I might just fire it up after this post :)

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I, for one, found this pretty excellent, and bought it after only about 10 mins of demo time. :tu:
Devine continues to put a huge dent in my pocket book. Grrr...That guy... :clap:
Not to mention AAS of course.

-Cheers

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whyterabbyt wrote:To their credit they have kept [Tassman] up to date with OS and host revisions, but they've pretty much squandered the opportunity in favour of recycling/repackaging, and, unfortunately, Objeq takes that to a whole new level of potentially excess straw.
So that leads to a YMMV question, Is it more satisfying and cost-effective to buy OBJEQ and its ~200 presets, or to build a similar one in Tassman FX?
The basic signal flow is straightforward: In> lp/hp Filter> resonant Objects> two Delays (for two Objects) with feedback loop> wet/dry Mixer> Out, and all four modules are modulated by LFOs. There are more details in the Manual, which is up to the usual high AAS standard.
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Michael L wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:To their credit they have kept [Tassman] up to date with OS and host revisions, but they've pretty much squandered the opportunity in favour of recycling/repackaging, and, unfortunately, Objeq takes that to a whole new level of potentially excess straw.
So that leads to a YMMV question, Is it more satisfying and cost-effective to buy OBJEQ and its ~200 presets, or to build a similar one in Tassman FX?
The basic signal flow is straightforward: In> lp/hp Filter> resonant Objects> two Delays (for two Objects) with feedback loop> wet/dry Mixer> Out, and all four modules are modulated by LFOs. There are more details in the Manual, which is up to the usual high AAS standard.
i would build it in something else because i hate the builder window in tassman. it's a pile of shit. it's like someone... say.. 10 children under the age of 7 decorated two xmas trees then 2 other children went into the room and pushed the trees together... made a big mess.. swept them up into a bundle then pushed them out the door and had them flattened by one of those steam rollers that flattens asphalt.

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Way too expensive for a delay. Even 99$ is too much.

Seeing as it's recycled tech, a hefty discount for aas customers would have been in order. If only to not have to look at Tassman's ugly mug.

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Yeah, I love Applied Acoustics to no end, but $99 is a little heavy-handed for a delay. $50 maybe, but not $99. That's too bad. My AAS collection is no longer complete.

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masterhiggins wrote:Yeah, I love Applied Acoustics to no end, but $99 is a little heavy-handed for a delay. $50 maybe, but not $99. That's too bad. My AAS collection is no longer complete.
Usually I think it is often unfair when people complain about the price here. But in this case I have to agree: to expensive in comparison with other delays and to less features. I demoed OBJEQ Delay and I didn't buy it. Not enough options in the resonator - it all sounds to similar, no shuffling of modules possible and overall sound is mediocre. A distortion stage would be fine for input and/or output. Maybe OBJEQ Delay 2 ...

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I view this as being better used for sound design than as a delay unit.
Its great on granular material for example. The physical models all
sound as they should to me, but they rely heavily on freq modulation
and decay to get the sounds you would expect.

I like that its pretty bare in regard to effects as I prefer to use external reverb
and such. Definitely the resonator models are the cliff notes version, some more
parameters would be welcome.

All in all, this is a pretty subtle effect and best used in conjunction with others
IMHO. It definitely requires a fair amount of exploration for such a seemingly simple
effect, parameters are few, but they can accomplish much.

The price is definitely up there, but simply waiting for the inevitable
sale should solve that for most.

Anyway, YMMV...

-Cheers

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Its great on the Beat/Rhythmic settings, very unique. Wish they had a note as well as a Hz readout on the resonator.
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