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These are the Modulation Destinations for the Parva. Can't wait to get mine in a few days.

OSC1 Frequency
OSC2 Frequency
OSC3 Frequency
Global Oscillator Frequency
OSC1 Level
OSC2 Level
OSC3 Level
Noise Level
OSC1 PWM
OSC2 PWM
OSC3 PWM
Global Oscillator PWM
VCF Cutoff Frequency
VCF Resonance
VCF Audio Modulation
VCA Level
Pan Left/Right
LFO1 Frequency
LFO2 Frequency
LFO3 Frequency
LFO4 Frequency
Global LFO Frequency
LFO1 Level
LFO2 Level
LFO3 Level
LFO4 Level
Global LFO Level
ENV1 Level
ENV2 Level
ENV3 Level
ENV4 Level
Global Envelope Level
ENV1 Attack Time
ENV2 Attack Time
ENV3 Attack Time
ENV4 Attack Time
Global Envelope Attack Time
ENV1 Decay Time
ENV2 Decay Time
ENV3 Decay Time
ENV4 Decay Time
Global Envelope Decay Time
ENV1 Release Time
ENV2 Release Time
ENV3 Release Time
ENV4 Release Time
Global Envelope Release Time

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A little warning against Nord Lead 4 Rack. It doesn't have linear pitch bend response so it's not really useful with Linnstrument. Unfortunatelly this 'feature' is not documented in user manual so I had to find that hard way :x

NL4R is nicely sounding module with a lot of great features and hands-on control but it's more suitable for traditional MIDI note on/off switch pushers. It's got nice and easy parameter morph assignments but lacks aftertouch and mentioned non-linear PB response kills it. Oh well. Luckily I was able to sell it quickly with no loss.

Looking forward to receive Parva soon too :party:

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Thanks, @OJSAND. Looking forward to hear about your experiences with the Linnstrument and the Parva!

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Just received Parva yesterday. It took me some time to find out that CC74 is hardwired to filter frequency, covering full range (0-127). So to gain precise control back I had to switch Y to ModWheel and assign filter freq manually to it in Modulation Matrix.
I'm in the process of building a Ctrlr panel for it. Basic CC's are covered and it's already so much fun to quickly set params and assign basic routings. Hope to get the NRPN's working for voice settings and full mod matrix menu too.

Parva sounds sooooo good to my ears. Modulation possibilities are great. Messing panning with LFOs it's possible to get sort of fake echo/delays etc. Loving it! I feel this will be a nice and long-lasting relationship between LS and Parva.

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be sure to post some vids! there is already geert's, but maybe something showing how you are modulating with the linnstrument

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Updated Parva to 0.61 yesterday. So far so good. Most notable feature is proper MPE so now when LS is in MPE mode (hold ChPerNote), its possible to edit all Parva voices at once. Delightfull!

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@48cube:

I'm really interested in the Parva as well.

Can you stack two separate voices while in MPE?

The result I'm hoping for:

Assign two different voices in a stack, assign a negative and positive volume control on the same modulation source. Negative amount on one voice, positive amount on the other. Select the CC value for the Y axis on the Linnstrument to match the modulation control on the Parva.

Then, using the Y axis on the linnstrument I can "crossfade" between two different voices with the same touch. If I bias the touch to the bottom I only hear one of the voices, bias to the top and I only hear the other, press in the middle I hear them both and moving up and down I mix between them. The ROLI Noise app had some fun duo-timbral voices like strings-and-brass that you could do some really expressive stuff with. Hoping to replicate that functionality with analog subtractive synthesis.

Since the Parva in its maximum configuration has 8 voices, I'd be left with a 4 touch maximum when using this stacked method, but that is plenty for my playing style

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@illintechnology: What you are describing should be possible in Multi mode on Parva, not in MPE mode. Benefit of MPE mode is that beside obvious things like per note pitch and expression you can control the patch from front panel. And there is simply no way to control two stacked patches at once. So you would have to set the Multi, assigning patch pairs to same channels. I'll try it in the evening and let you know the result.

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Just got my 128 and having a blast. I have an Ambika polysynth I built from a kit that is essentially 6 monosynths in one convenient package. It's in storage right now, but I'll have it in a couple weeks. It should work with some limitations... anyone else using this?

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I'm curious about your experience with Ambika. I nearly got one too but then I found that pitch bend range is limited only to +- 2 semitones and manual firmware source code + compilation is needed to extend it. That put me off. Nonetheless it's great sounding box! Which voice cards do you have inside?

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48cube wrote:I'm curious about your experience with Ambika. I nearly got one too but then I found that pitch bend range is limited only to +- 2 semitones and manual firmware source code + compilation is needed to extend it. That put me off. Nonetheless it's great sounding box! Which voice cards do you have inside?
I have the SMR4 cards. I had built a Shruthi Plus and had so much fun that I jumped on an Ambika kit with a white steel case and classic wooden cheeks when it came out. Turns out that was the last run for all those oddball open-source synth kits (except for the original Shruthi) as Mr. Gillet devotes his time now to the Mutable Instrument Eurorack modules. The sound is powerful... great in the lower and mid ranges. The filter kicks ass, though since it has 12 bit DACs with a relatively low sample rate for the digital oscillators you'll never get a silky, sweet sound up high with the filter open due to aliasing. This limitation was due to building a kit with through hole parts for us kit builders and experimenters, better stuff is available as surface mount parts that use non open source languages. That said, it has a tremendous range of sound and programming options... very satisfying. It will be interesting to try it out with the 128!

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48cube wrote:Updated Parva to 0.61 yesterday. So far so good. Most notable feature is proper MPE so now when LS is in MPE mode (hold ChPerNote), its possible to edit all Parva voices at once. Delightfull!
Got a Parva today. It was incredibly frustrating trying to make it work with the Linnstrument, until I came here read this note. Multi mode was being really buggy, and I either didn't know or had forgotten about Linnstrument's MPE mode.

Things are looking up now. Thanks 48cube!

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I've been using a Waldorf Micro Q for MPE with my Linnstrument 128.

What you need to do is setup a program that is Monophonic (to prevent note stealing) and in the mod matrix, you need to configure what the Y and Z axis would do. In paper, the Micro Q should support Poly AT but it seems it was never implemented, you need to use channel pressure.

Then you go to Multimode and setup 16 parts each with a different midi channel that uses the Program you previously created.

This has the drawbacks of not being able to edit it in Multimode easily, but if you go back and edit/save your program every part of the multi will change accordingly.

This way, you have a very playable MPE program that cannot be edited live but that can be edited easily.

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Hit the Oberheim Xpander with the Linnstrument yesterday. There's a couple of hacks to get it playing right...

To get one octave pitch bend you have to modulate the oscilator with two lever 1's, one set to max (63) the other to 58. You also have to turn off lever 1 in the b page setting. A bit expensive on modulation but it works.

The other thing is to ignore lever 2 but instead set the y data to come through the pedal 1 output. That way when you put it in a multi (for MPE like response) you get your y data independently.

Oh, I set each channel in the multi to a different midi channel too (1-6), and the good news is you can edit multiple voices at once I think, meaning even though it's over 30 years old it is essentially MPE specced!

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Hi,
Sorry to drag-up an old thread, but I have only recently purchased a LinnStrument (I struggle to play a normal keyboard due to my disability). However, almost a year on from your original post and I am having a similar issue here in Great Britain WRT hardware.

I have Steinberg Cubase Pro 9, Steinberg Absolute 2, Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate 10, Roland Cakewalk, PropellerHead Reason 9, BitWig and lots of plug-ins, but I really want one hardware desktop synth which can make full use of all the LI's MPE features.

I have a good selection of Roland Aira/Boutique kit and a basic 19" rack with a Roland System 1m and four Effector units, but want one high-end synth (analog/digital/hybrid) as my 'Master Unit' which works 'properly' with the LI rather than the many complex work-around hacks which provide some/partial MPE features mentioned in this thread (some of which conflict with other threads......)

Surprisingly, despite speaking to the four largest specialist retailers here in the UK and I have drawn a blank. LIs seem to be rare in the UK, probably due to their price (I paid almost £1500) and MPE still seems to be considered a novelty to many (not my opinion!). I have heard mixed views on the Futuresonus PArva, but I have not been able to find any stock in the UK or anybody with first hand experience. Others have suggested the Novation peak or possibly the two newly released DSI synths with more workaround hacks.

It would appear that hardware synth technology has not caught up with MPE and the LI, or am I just getting poor advice?

Your comments and advice would be greatly appreciated!

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