Tone2 Saurus2...The Great Underrated?

[nicksohn]

I demoed all of their synth, saurus is the best synth among them for me.

I have diva too, it has dense thick sound, but it eats my cpu. I can not use this more than 2 instance on full project (about 30~40tracks). but suarus is very kind for my cpu while still authentic sound to me. Diva has a little bit more dense sound in some sounds, but i would not get that difference at the cost of dead cpu since saurus sounds good enough to me. And furthermore, in the whole mix, yeah..
But for some cases, i'm sure diva still takes its own place, yes irreplaceable for its own.

In conclusion, Saurus 2 is the great underrated for me.

I don't think it is suitable for everyone, especially those who want aggressive EDM sounds. But if you like old school vintage sound, maybe you like it more than other big competitives. (or not, it is matter of taste )
FYI, Serum is very plain EDM synth to me, it sounds ok-ish, but I don't need it since i don't do EDM. I don't like its bass sounds.
and Zebra is mediocre, just ok sound-wise for me.(but it has possibilities for complex sound making!)
I like TAL synths much more.
I think People who like me tends to favor saurus.

And i believe it is bang for buck since you can take it for aboit $83 or something like that on audiodeluxe.

Cheers,
SOHN.

[nicksohn]

My Only complaint about saurus is midi learn.
What a silly, it supposed to be analogue synth, but can not handle it via real knobs...
I sent a feature suggestion, so hope it would come in the near future..

[4damind]

I own Saurus 1/2... I think people expected an analog emulation and the result was more a typical VA with a not so much analog sound. So this synth plays between a typical digital synth like Spire/Sylenth etc and an analog emulation like Arturia, Diva etc.
IMO it's more that many people have not found a usage for Saurus and so this synth falls quickly under the radar.

[nicksohn]

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[Distorted Horizon]

IMO saurus is a great synth.

[Ingonator]

I own Saurus 1/2... I think people expected an analog emulation and the result was more a typical VA with a not so much analog sound. So this synth plays between a typical digital synth like Spire/Sylenth etc and an analog emulation like Arturia, Diva etc.
IMO it's more that many people have not found a usage for Saurus and so this synth falls quickly under the radar.

Well the amount of posts at KVR is NOT a proper measurement for commercial success. I am quite sure Tone2 sold quite a lot of this and that there are many happy users of it. Besides that Saurus was discussed quite a lot in the past but is alraedy some years old now.

I do not agree that it does not sounds analog. Besides that it is inded not an emulation of a specific synth but that's not a bad thing.

Anyway i had only created more than 250 patches with it (The majority of them included with offical soundsets of Tone2) so what do i know...

Bought around 5 years ago after less than 1 hour of demoing and is one of my all time favorite synths.
Along my other all time favorites there are e.g. Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V and Synapse Audio The Legend which is funny as i got a lot other synths that are more complex than those (including several other wavetable synths). With those 3 synths alone i made around 700-800 patches so far.

Tone 2 Icarus is already 90% close to be along my all time favorites and some of the analog filter models are based and/or isnpired by Saurus filters (i know that from Markus).


Anyway to be honest i thought that the low end of Saurus could be maybe a bit better which with v2 was slightly improved with the saturation feature. Anyway if i ned mre low end i simply add an EQ or a BAss enhancement plugin like e.g. Waves OneKnob Phatter. Problem solved...
I do the same with the Arturia plugins and e.g. the Matrix-12 V2 sounds great with a little bass boosting added.
Opposing to some other people improving a synth by external effects is not really "cheating" for me. With hardware synths this was done since ages and whie doing mastering this is still done today...

[Ingonator]

Some might ignore this but also the "Tone" knobs in teh OSc section have a big impact on teh overall sound of Saurus.

For a more vintage sound it is recommended (Markus also told this in the past) to use a Tone value at the center or below. At higher values the sound gets brighter and/or more "VA like".

Like with other synths it could be also misleading to judge the sounds of a synth by it's factory presets. When doing my own sounds i found it was quite easy to get vintage sound s out of it.
I participated in two soudsets that were intended to create more vintage/oldskool sounds.
Anyway also several of the factory patches show that Saurus coudl do vintage patches quite well.

Some people are just not interested in buying additional soundsets to explore what is possible with the synth.

BTW since a quite long time (almost as long as Saurus is released) there is also a nice oldskool soundset from Electric Himalaya called "OLD VOLT":
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/tone2_ ... _bank.html

[nicksohn]

Some might ignore this but also the "Tone" knobs in teh OSc section have a big impact on teh overall sound of Saurus.

For a more vintage sound it is recommended (Markus also told this in the past) to use a Tone value at the center or below. At higher values the sound gets brighter and/or more "VA like".

Like with other synths it could be also misleading to judge the sounds of a synth by it's factory presets. When doing my own sounds i found it was quite easy to get vintage sound s out of it.
I participated in two soudsets that were intended to create more vintage/oldskool sounds.
Anyway also several of the factory patches show that Saurus coudl do vintage patches quite well.

Some people are just not interested in buying additional soundsets to explore what is possible with the synth.

BTW since a quite long time (almost as long as Saurus is released) there is also a nice oldskool soundset from Electric Himalaya called "OLD VOLT":
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/tone2_ ... _bank.html

I totally agree. Factory presets are good starting point, but I tend to lower the value of tone knob.
For example, Factory preset 'Anal velo' in bass category, It is already quiet nice, But a bit too much brightness. After some modifying(Mix 1/2knob Tone knob, Cut off knob), I get the more suitable sound for me.
It is amazing synth for me.

and Thanks for the info, I'll check 'OLD VOLT' out later.
(Firstly, I will buy Synth legends and Analog - official soundsets. )

[nicksohn]

Tone 2 Icarus is already 90% close to be along my all time favorites and some of the analog filter models are based and/or isnpired by Saurus filters (i know that from Markus).

Do you know how to get analoguish filter sound from icarus?
I want to buy another tone2 synth in the near future, but i'm not sure which would be mine.
Tone2 synths all have analogue type filter, but I can not get the analoguish sound, for example, Moog-ish Funky bass sounds. (like Factory preset 'Anal velo' in bass category.)

I want tone2 synth which has same filter as Saurus and has more feature like midi-learn, more mod option..etc..

[Ingonator]

Tone 2 Icarus is already 90% close to be along my all time favorites and some of the analog filter models are based and/or isnpired by Saurus filters (i know that from Markus).

Do you know how to get analoguish filter sound from icarus?
I want to buy another tone2 synth in the near future, but i'm not sure which would be mine.
Tone2 synths all have analogue type filter, but I can not get the analoguish sound, for example, Moog-ish Funky bass sounds. (like Factory preset 'Anal velo' in bass category.)

I want tone2 synth which has same filter as Saurus and has more feature like midi-learn, more mod option..etc..

My Icarus factory preset called "Hyper Brass IW" is based on a waveform created from a sample of a Moog Slim Phatty that i owned until 2015 and the "LP Butter 24dB" filter taht is comparable to teh 24dB LPF in Saurus and a Moog 24dB LPF.

There are also two "Curtis" analog filter modes and two TB-303 inspired ones. Also the anlog BPF and HPF modes are quite nice.

[nicksohn]

Tone 2 Icarus is already 90% close to be along my all time favorites and some of the analog filter models are based and/or isnpired by Saurus filters (i know that from Markus).

Do you know how to get analoguish filter sound from icarus?
I want to buy another tone2 synth in the near future, but i'm not sure which would be mine.
Tone2 synths all have analogue type filter, but I can not get the analoguish sound, for example, Moog-ish Funky bass sounds. (like Factory preset 'Anal velo' in bass category.)

I want tone2 synth which has same filter as Saurus and has more feature like midi-learn, more mod option..etc..

My Icarus factory preset called "Hyper Brass IW" is based on a waveform created from a sample of a Moog Slim Phatty that i owned until 2015 and the "LP Butter 24dB" filter taht is comparable to teh 24dB LPF in Saurus and a Moog 24dB LPF.

There are also two "Curtis" analog filter modes and two TB-303 inspired ones. Also the anlog BPF and HPF modes are quite nice.

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely check it out in demo.
So, If I want analoguish synth from tone2, Do you recommend Icarus?
I was considering Electra and Nemesis.

[wagtunes]

Tone 2 Icarus is already 90% close to be along my all time favorites and some of the analog filter models are based and/or isnpired by Saurus filters (i know that from Markus).

Do you know how to get analoguish filter sound from icarus?
I want to buy another tone2 synth in the near future, but i'm not sure which would be mine.
Tone2 synths all have analogue type filter, but I can not get the analoguish sound, for example, Moog-ish Funky bass sounds. (like Factory preset 'Anal velo' in bass category.)

I want tone2 synth which has same filter as Saurus and has more feature like midi-learn, more mod option..etc..

My Icarus factory preset called "Hyper Brass IW" is based on a waveform created from a sample of a Moog Slim Phatty that i owned until 2015 and the "LP Butter 24dB" filter taht is comparable to teh 24dB LPF in Saurus and a Moog 24dB LPF.

There are also two "Curtis" analog filter modes and two TB-303 inspired ones. Also the anlog BPF and HPF modes are quite nice.

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely check it out in demo.
So, If I want analoguish synth from tone2, Do you recommend Icarus?
I was considering Electra and Nemesis.

Nemesis is an FM synth and the farthest thing from analog.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... new-sounds

[chk071]

Yes, i also thought the Butter filter is quite comparable to the Saurus filters. If you really get a Moogish bass out of Saurus that way, i don't know. Don't get me wrong, Saurus is a good synth, but, for a Moog, it may be better to check a dedicated emulation like Monark, or Legend. The filters in Saurus are good, but, the one in Monark e.g. is amazing, and doesn't crap out on fast modulation like in Saurus. That's actually one of the issues their synths have, with fast modulations, they just won't sound good, and the filter resonance behavior is also not comparable with other synths which use ZDF filters. For Moog sound, i really can recommend Monark, actually, i did a comparison with Legend again yesterday, and once again preferred Monark to Legend. Legend is a bit sterile, and ordinary sounding compared, to me.

[nicksohn]

Yes, i also thought the Butter filter is quite comparable to the Saurus filters. If you really get a Moogish bass out of Saurus that way, i don't know. Don't get me wrong, Saurus is a good synth, but, for a Moog, it may be better to check a dedicated emulation like Monark, or Legend. The filters in Saurus are good, but, the one in Monark e.g. is amazing, and doesn't crap out on fast modulation like in Saurus. That's actually one of the issues their synths have, with fast modulations, they just won't sound good, and the filter resonance behavior is also not comparable with other synths which use ZDF filters. For Moog sound, i really can recommend Monark, actually, i did a comparison with Legend again yesterday, and once again preferred Monark to Legend. Legend is a bit sterile, and ordinary sounding compared, to me.

I already have monark as a owner of komplete ultimate.
and i agree with you, Monark is authentic moog emu.

[nicksohn]

Tone 2 Icarus is already 90% close to be along my all time favorites and some of the analog filter models are based and/or isnpired by Saurus filters (i know that from Markus).

Do you know how to get analoguish filter sound from icarus?
I want to buy another tone2 synth in the near future, but i'm not sure which would be mine.
Tone2 synths all have analogue type filter, but I can not get the analoguish sound, for example, Moog-ish Funky bass sounds. (like Factory preset 'Anal velo' in bass category.)

I want tone2 synth which has same filter as Saurus and has more feature like midi-learn, more mod option..etc..

My Icarus factory preset called "Hyper Brass IW" is based on a waveform created from a sample of a Moog Slim Phatty that i owned until 2015 and the "LP Butter 24dB" filter taht is comparable to teh 24dB LPF in Saurus and a Moog 24dB LPF.

There are also two "Curtis" analog filter modes and two TB-303 inspired ones. Also the anlog BPF and HPF modes are quite nice.

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely check it out in demo.
So, If I want analoguish synth from tone2, Do you recommend Icarus?
I was considering Electra and Nemesis.

Nemesis is an FM synth and the farthest thing from analog.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... new-sounds

Ok i got your point.
But I like yamaha dx series and SY series.
FM bass sound is used in so many funk, disco songs.
now I believe you got my point.