Cytomic "The Scream" stomp box distortion plugin

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

PS anyway my thought was that it's better to focus on pedals most people know and tried. Not some weird arcane things which only Illuminati use.

I hear ya, but:

1. I don't know anyone that actually loves the DS-1. I feel like everyone has owned one at some point but they inevitably upgrade.

And...

2. The argument for doing more difficult to obtain pieces of gear is just as strong if not stronger than doing stuff that's inexpensive and commonly available. Then again, there are so many obscure boutique pedals that all claim to be the best at whatever, that my eyes kind of glaze over. I'd much prefer Andy model vintage pedals that are still highly regarded decades later, but too expensive for most of us to comfortably afford.

I'll be honest though, Andy seems to be so good at modeling circuits that I'm going to buy just about anything he releases on day one.

[andy-cytomic]

Everything in the circuit contributes to the sound, including the op-amps. For the TS-808 the JRC4558 op-amp isn't pushed into slew rate limiting, but there are many other parts of the op-amp that contribute to the tone and distortion characteristics so I've included them in my model. The slew rate limit for the JRC4558 is 1 volt / micro second, which is included in the model anyway, but I had to lower that value down to around 0.05 volts / micro second before I could hear much of a difference.

Thanks. I've been wondering about this for a while so it was very nice to have this answered, seems like my speculation went in the wrong direction though. That still leaves me a bit curious about this, do you think there is anything to idea about getting huge (the people I've seen claiming this have mostly claimed that it's pretty drastic) changes in sound from switching the OP and is there any OP characteristic that would be the main "culprit" in this? (If you don't want to answer this for business reasons I fully understand.)

Switching the op-amps will make a large difference to the sound in the TS-808. The slew rate of the JRC4558 does not contribute anything to the TS-808 sound.

[sqigls]

budda phat bass PLEASE!!!!!!

It's one of the best bass distortion pedals ever!!

[jpga]

Make a clipper plugin with Cytomic love.

[Andywanders]

I don't know anyone that actually loves the DS-1...

Steve Vai

[pilgrim_heart]

Switching the op-amps will make a large difference to the sound in the TS-808. The slew rate of the JRC4558 does not contribute anything to the TS-808 sound.

Thanks, it's nice to have that confirmed.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I don't know anyone that actually loves the DS-1...

Steve Vai

Right, but I don't actually KNOW Steve Vai.

Never cared much for his style or music either, but there's no doubting the man's a virtuoso if that's the kind of thing you're into.

[AudioGuy720]

budda phat bass PLEASE!!!!!!

It's one of the best bass distortion pedals ever!!

I second this. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifie ... tion-pedal

[izonin]

Just as a fun experiment, it would be cool to compare the TS-808 emulation to a similar box profiled with the Kemper.

Here's what the Kemper is capable of (in this vid a DS-1 profile). Pretty recognizable, I'd say:

[Amberience]

PS anyway my thought was that it's better to focus on pedals most people know and tried. Not some weird arcane things which only Illuminati use.

I hear ya, but:

1. I don't know anyone that actually loves the DS-1. I feel like everyone has owned one at some point but they inevitably upgrade.

C'mon now lad... everyone loves the DS-1 !!

[meloco_go]

Well, I was the one who argued to avoid super-rare bootique stuff, but I actually found one pedal I would really love to see.
It is called "the Bigger Muff". It was built by Richard Kaplan the owner and engineer at the Indigo Ranch studios and it is one of the staples of the albums recoded there in the mid '90s, including early Korn albums, Sepultura "Roots" and first album by Limp Bizkit. There are photos of the board for this pedal on the web, maybe Richard Kaplan can be contacted, and also there's a guy who built a clone which sounds pretty damn close http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/i ... c=112183.0


PS edited for typos

PPS did some search and it turns out Richard Kaplan had passed away...

[Melvin J.]

Oh god that's right. The Bigger Muff would be something incredible to have available as a plug-in. I'd probably pay a lot more than $25 for that too lol!

[elassi]

Also I was thinking of pricing it at USD 29, how does that sound?

I see a new Cytomic-toy, I buy.

[kswissevan]

Definately will check this out.

[Ichad.c]

The boutique "pedal" to rule them all:

except that it sounds shit - at least in that video...

That was just me taking a jab at 'boutique pedals', sometimes my humor just doesn't translate to the net , I think it has a very unique sound though.

As for Andy starting off with the classics, it's probably a good idea - the clone/diy community wouldn't be falling over themselves to release kits of these if they we not popular. A lot of 'boutique' pedals are either based on or are highly 'inspired-by' the classics, so if Andy has the the basics down, adding a boutique line-up would be easier. To give an example, as somebody mentioned the ZVEX Fuzz factory here - and I'm slightly simplifying this here, but its basically a modified Fuzz Face with a booster circuit like a EHX LPB-1.

I would also recommend adding some booster type pedals to the line-up, they are usually super simple circuits and don't distort much but they tend to not have much filtering so they work well with things other than guitar, like bass, keys, organs etc. I use these in a re-amping setup all the time, very fun.

I would not buy the classics purely because I'm getting into DIY myself and the classics are very simple circuits so they are great for beginners. But I'll definitely be interested in more rare items.

As for opamps and all they 'mojo' guitar parts that people sometimes go on about, it really depends on what circuit it is in, in other words - how it is used/abused, I dig this guys youtube stuff: