How come the 15 year old Ruction is still the best Drum-machine?

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exmatproton wrote:
pepelogu wrote:Hehe... no, that was not ment as an ad. :) It's my sincere opinion.

I just find it mind boggling that this ancient piece of software to this day hasn't been bettered. I was one of probably 15 people who actually bought it back in the day. :)
Well, with all due respect, it has been bettered for sure. By FL Studio to name 1.
Geist2 is above it, quite an amount of Reaktor devices as well...
No, it hasn't. The key features I mentioned in the original post is missing in those. Believe me, iv'e tried them all. FL Studio may look similar but is quite different to work with.
"If less is more, just think of how much more, more will be".

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pepelogu wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
pepelogu wrote:Hehe... no, that was not ment as an ad. :) It's my sincere opinion.

I just find it mind boggling that this ancient piece of software to this day hasn't been bettered. I was one of probably 15 people who actually bought it back in the day. :)
Well, with all due respect, it has been bettered for sure. By FL Studio to name 1.
Geist2 is above it, quite an amount of Reaktor devices as well...
No, it hasn't. The key features I mentioned in the original post is missing in those. Believe me, iv'e tried them all. FL Studio may look similar but is quite different to work with.
lol :hihi:

And vice versa. It just depends on what you want it to do. 'Bettered' in that sense is really subjective. FL Studio, Geist2 and many Reaktor modules blow this thing to pieces. If you want to "hold on" to this, please do and enjoy. But really, if i start to write down all the so called key-features of aformentioned vst's, you'll see that Ruction is indeed really old and lack loads of functionallity compared to my examples.

Which isn't a bad thing, but it is a fact :tu:

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exmatproton wrote:
pepelogu wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
pepelogu wrote:Hehe... no, that was not ment as an ad. :) It's my sincere opinion.

I just find it mind boggling that this ancient piece of software to this day hasn't been bettered. I was one of probably 15 people who actually bought it back in the day. :)
Well, with all due respect, it has been bettered for sure. By FL Studio to name 1.
Geist2 is above it, quite an amount of Reaktor devices as well...
No, it hasn't. The key features I mentioned in the original post is missing in those. Believe me, iv'e tried them all. FL Studio may look similar but is quite different to work with.
lol :hihi:

And vice versa. It just depends on what you want it to do. 'Bettered' in that sense is really subjective. FL Studio, Geist2 and many Reaktor modules blow this thing to pieces. If you want to "hold on" to this, please do and enjoy. But really, if i start to write down all the so called key-features of aformentioned vst's, you'll see that Ruction is indeed really old and lack loads of functionallity compared to my examples.

Which isn't a bad thing, but it is a fact :tu:
Well, i disagree. Have you used Ruction extensively?
"If less is more, just think of how much more, more will be".

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And let the specs war begin.

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Yeah, a spec war Ruction would obviously loose. :)

But for ease of use, funfactor, inspiring etc. Ruction is unmatched.

I'm not here to defend or promote Ruction, i'm here in hope of finding a replacement since it is only 32bit and a bit buggy. As i've said I don't care for Geist2 or FL Studio (don't like a daw within a daw). Anything else out there?

What Reaktor-ensembles are similar?
"If less is more, just think of how much more, more will be".

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pepelogu wrote:...i'm here in hope of finding a replacement since it is only 32bit and a bit buggy. As i've said I don't care for Geist2 or FL Studio (don't like a daw within a daw). Anything else out there?
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I guess it would be worth checking out Xfer Nerve...
https://www.xferrecords.com/products/nerve

Can't really say if ALL the functions you listed is available in Nerve cause I have yet to mastered it fully, but if you haven't tried it yet I recommend you to do so...

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pepelogu wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
pepelogu wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
pepelogu wrote:Hehe... no, that was not ment as an ad. :) It's my sincere opinion.

I just find it mind boggling that this ancient piece of software to this day hasn't been bettered. I was one of probably 15 people who actually bought it back in the day. :)
Well, with all due respect, it has been bettered for sure. By FL Studio to name 1.
Geist2 is above it, quite an amount of Reaktor devices as well...
No, it hasn't. The key features I mentioned in the original post is missing in those. Believe me, iv'e tried them all. FL Studio may look similar but is quite different to work with.
lol :hihi:

And vice versa. It just depends on what you want it to do. 'Bettered' in that sense is really subjective. FL Studio, Geist2 and many Reaktor modules blow this thing to pieces. If you want to "hold on" to this, please do and enjoy. But really, if i start to write down all the so called key-features of aformentioned vst's, you'll see that Ruction is indeed really old and lack loads of functionallity compared to my examples.

Which isn't a bad thing, but it is a fact :tu:
Well, i disagree. Have you used Ruction extensively?
Disagree with facts? Lol...

Again, if you think and feel Ruction tops all current sequencers, then, be my guest. Keep on using it. Enjoy it. Whatever fits you. But you are really merely stating opinions as they are facts, which is faulty.

Ruction is a good, simple and fun seq. I've used it years ago, before i went completely fl studio (which, imho, is Ruction and many other sequencers, on steroids)

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wagtunes wrote:Yeah, except there's no links to it anywhere in the post or in his signature and can you even still buy this thing?
Found it in a minute ;)

http://www.d-dev.com/

The domain last update date was 23-aug-2016, so the dev still care to pay for the upkeep :tu:

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the best drum machine out there is...... Omnisphere! :hihi: :o

there! now i've really fuolczkioued things up :dog: :x

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Kr3eM wrote:
pepelogu wrote:...i'm here in hope of finding a replacement since it is only 32bit and a bit buggy. As i've said I don't care for Geist2 or FL Studio (don't like a daw within a daw). Anything else out there?
...
I guess it would be worth checking out Xfer Nerve...
https://www.xferrecords.com/products/nerve

Can't really say if ALL the functions you listed is available in Nerve cause I have yet to mastered it fully, but if you haven't tried it yet I recommend you to do so...
Wow, a response that is actually helpful. Thanks, Nerve looks cool.
"If less is more, just think of how much more, more will be".

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I agree with you. Easier drum programs to use such as this one are so rare and I'm not sure why. I mean you have all of these drum samplers/machines that can do pretty much anything, but they miss the one mark.... simplicity.

If anyone has ever used an old school drum machine like a Boss Dr660 or and Alesis SR16 know what I mean. Program your beats, pick a sound, minor adjustments, switch between patterns, it syncs, that's it. It doesn't take up your whole screen with endless options. There are a few things that are close (Poise comes to mind if it had a sequencer, DK+ if it was developed just a little more) but everything is just all so counterproductive. There should be a balance of "ease of use" and "depth of features". And I'm not talking about a whole DAW. Just something simple that loads fast & doesn't cost $300. Please enlighten me if I am missing a product.
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I used to like the surface simplicity of Guru. Obviously a helluva lot more versatile than Ruction but you could easily ignore most of it's functionality and just use it in a similar way.

Something got lost with Geist I think...

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I have been on KVR over 10 years and have never heard of this one, but you're saying it's the "best"? Seems like I would have heard more about it over the years if it was that good.

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GaryG wrote:Stepchild step sequencer (2003ish?)
Never heard about that one. Looks nice! Especially the midi drag/drop feature, which imho every (drum)midisequencer should have these days, but most of them still don't.

Eager to check it out.. but.. Stepchild link on kvr product page goes 404 :(
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Wave alchemy revolution looks pretty straightforward.

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