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Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:24 am

I've never left HY-Mono, you noticed!

...few synths force you to be extra creative and most of those really don't deserve the glory of what we're all doing with them!

But what we really feature is not the synths, but our ingenuity!

I have to admit, though, I really am enjoying the HY-Mono challenge. I mean, I made at least 2 extra fun doodles with it and contemplating to make yet one more.

Darksynth FX · Post by **Darksynth FX** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:11 am

Oh my god!

I just realised I have used a tiny amount of pitch-bending on 2 of my midi tracks (Ableton Envelope) when I created an FX sound for my track this month. It goes for about 6 seconds. I did read the rules carefully but stupid me I forgot that not only pitch-changing plugins are forbidden but pitching in general. Am I disqualified now?

bjporter · Post by **bjporter** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:49 am

Thank you for the heads up. Do you mean like pitch bending the midi notes, or pitch bending the sound itself (eg like a voice changer / record stop effect)?

Darksynth FX wrote:Oh my god! I just realised I have used a tiny amount of pitch-bending on 2 of my midi tracks (Ableton Envelope) when I created an FX sound for my track this month. It goes for about 6 seconds. I did read the rules carefully but stupid me I forgot that not only pitch-changing plugins are forbidden but pitching in general. Am I disqualified now?

Darksynth FX · Post by **Darksynth FX** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:04 am

bjporter wrote:Thank you for the heads up. Do you mean like pitch bending the midi notes, or pitch bending the sound itself (eg like a voice changer / record stop effect)?

I pitch-bended the midi notes in the Ableton midi-view (envelopes).

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:41 am

Pitch bending with the pitch bending midi control is completely fine, haha, don't worry! This would be like prohibiting the modulation wheel or actually any midi control data for that matter.
What ever sounds the synth produces are legit. Only when you manipulate the sound outside of the synth with anything that changes the pitch, then that's a no-go!

Without pitch bending via midi, OSC wouldn't have had many people stick around, hehe...

So: You're good!

Darksynth FX · Post by **Darksynth FX** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:46 am

Taron wrote:Pitch bending with the pitch bending midi control is completely fine, haha, don't worry! This would be like prohibiting the modulation wheel or actually any midi control data for that matter.
What ever sounds the synth produces are legit. Only when you manipulate the sound outside of the synth with anything that changes the pitch, then that's a no-go!

Without pitch bending via midi, OSC wouldn't have had many people stick around, hehe...

So: You're good!

Thx for clarifying! I was not sure so I thought I'd better ask. But it seems logical to me now that without using the pitch wheel (or the envelopes in my case) the musical output would be very limited

!

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:01 am

Oh yes! But I understand your worry about using envelopes or other input helpers. It seems like it's adding a component that a synth should have and if it didn't, it would be like cheating, but it is not. Whether you painfully throw the pitch wheel around for each sound, paint the curves or use other given automation of your DAW really shouldn't make a difference.
I'm using envelopes for my percussion as well!

Once upon a time I even used a lfo on pitch...forgot which synth it was, but it was the only way to reasonably create vibrato.

Dee.P.Tree · Post by **Dee.P.Tree** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:17 pm

<Comment Deleted because it was related to Nabla OSC. My Mistake.

Sorry.>

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:30 pm

Can't speak for FL studio, so I hope somebody can tell you how to route envelope controller to pitch bend. It's no problem in MuLab, but it took a while for that to become possible.

Anyway, velocity is a real issue, because it has no internal velocity as far as I can tell, and using velocity from the DAW will control the volume of the entire sound, ignoring polyphony. One trick could be to actually treat it like a mono synth and use midiPolyphony with an elaborate construction per channel for the volume of each note. I haven't done it, yet, but I'm considering it...

Joywheels are, of course, useful, as they do have standard functionality (aka pitch bending and mod wheel for vibrato or noise amount). But the vibrato control is insane and you generally just want to use anything under 10%, haha...otherwise you have wild howling.

Pitch bending seems locked to 5 half notes, I think. It's ok to use, though.

Dee.P.Tree · Post by **Dee.P.Tree** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:13 pm

Thanks Taron for help. I'll also try your suggestions in this week.

asi4 · Post by **asi4** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:42 am

So, I voted:)

Darksynth FX · Post by **Darksynth FX** » Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:16 am

Voted for all tracks except 1 track which is still not playable (left it unrated as suggested by bjporter).

asi4 · Post by **asi4** » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:28 am

Just updated my browser (Opera) and now I can't open onesynthchallenge.org due to SSL-error.

You attempted to reach http://www.onesynthchallenge.org, but the server presented a certificate signed using a weak signature algorithm (such as SHA-1). This means that the security credentials the server presented could have been forged, and the server may not be the server you expected (you may be communicating with an attacker).

What does it means?

BobFish · Post by **BobFish** » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:37 am

Voted !

TrojakEW · Post by **TrojakEW** » Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:04 pm

Finally Voted.

One Synth Challenge #95: HY-Mono by HY-Plugins / hyakken (Carl_saved wins!!!)