Steinberg HALion 6 & HALion Sonic 3

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Multi-core support seems to work fine in the VST version of HALion 6 in Cubase 8, so only in the AU version multi-core support is not happening.

So, disqualified in my case. Thank´s!
If i could just get the wavetable thingie without the other bloat.
I never liked Serum´s wavetable "resynthesis".
Would like to know how it compares to Icarus (which is far better).
And for the experts....is the granular engine in HALion 6 something i couldn´t cover with Falcon´s IRCAM options?

Multigranular in Halion is brilliant and it was before Falcon even arrived.

[aMUSEd]

That's weird because when you set Multicore up in standalone it says this may cause dropouts when functioning in a DAW that is also multicore - which implies that it does.

Well if you enable the multicore in standalone and then open the plugin in Logic it's set to off.

Yeah, so why the message. Or does it only apply to the VST?

[Sampleconstruct]

That's weird because when you set Multicore up in standalone it says this may cause dropouts when functioning in a DAW that is also multicore - which implies that it does.

Well if you enable the multicore in standalone and then open the plugin in Logic it's set to off.

Yeah, so why the message. Or does it only apply to the VST?

Anyway, changing the settings doesn't make a difference anyway, it just doesn't work in Logic which does support multicore. But Steinberg have never bothered about Logic anyway, so I might as well just shut up.

[aMUSEd]

That's good in a way because I can have multicore on in standalone at least without worrying about it affecting DAW performance

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Re-synthesized glockenspiel sequence in HALion 6 wavetable synth, using the Exponential mode for the re-synthesis limiting marker amount to 40, later dragging some of the 40 markers around to find the right waveforms. The tinkling sound in the pad also results from modulating formants with a slow random LFO. Quite beautiful...

[c_voltage]

The whole wave-tabling thing can get pretty CPU-intense

That bad (in last time it seemed to me that it was pretty light for cpu)
In general, i feel need wait trial and try damn trial.

[trusampler]

Arrggghhh... Server is down!! I'm trying to upgrade my Absolute 1 License and the server is down! ;( Any ideas when Steinberg will have this fixed?

[Sampleconstruct]

The whole wave-tabling thing can get pretty CPU-intense

That bad (in last time it seemed to me that it was pretty light for cpu)
In general, i feel need wait trial and try damn trial.

It's to be expected though considering the sound quality and concept behind this. After more experiments I'm more impressed, one can spread markers manually over a sample which is several minutes long, at those marker positions waveforms are extracted, later you can move the markers around, substitute certain areas in a resulting wavetable with waveforms extracted from a different sample, or analyze a file and determine how many markers should be created, or set a threshold above which markers will be created and much more. It is a very unique concept indeed.

[woodsdenis]

Arrggghhh... Server is down!! I'm trying to upgrade my Absolute 1 License and the server is down! ;( Any ideas when Steinberg will have this fixed?

Yes trying to authorise H6, been like that for hours !!!!!

[fmr]

It's to be expected though considering the sound quality and concept behind this. After more experiments I'm more impressed, one can spread markers manually over a sample which is several minutes long, at those marker positions waveforms are extracted, later you can move the markers around, substitute certain areas in a resulting wavetable with waveforms extracted from a different sample, or analyze a file and determine how many markers should be created, or set a threshold above which markers will be created and much more. It is a very unique concept indeed.

Yes, the editor is really deep. However, I miss a controller to balance the amount of noise vs harmonic partials to be included in the analysis/resynthesis. When the sample has some noise transientes, something is "lost in translation". I tried the same samples in Icarus, and somehow the resulting wavetable was more faithfull. It's the only remark I have, so far.

That and the impossibility to export wavetables in WAV format

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Multi-core support seems to work fine in the VST version of HALion 6 in Cubase 8, so only in the AU version multi-core support is not happening.

I got this "official" replay in the thread I started on the Steinberg forum:

There is no multi-core support for each single slot in HALion. If you just have a single slot, there will always just one core be active. As soon as you load more slots or use more than one instance of HALion, more cores will cover the workload.

[kelvyn]

Anyone know if there's an upgrade path from Halion 3?
Tried Steinberg but they never reply...

Thanks

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After learning some more about the SPECTRUM editor in H6 and how to manipulate phases and other things, here is another video experiment:

Re-synthesizing/wave-tabling a choir recording with speech and lot's of consonants, placing the markers manually, manipulating the resulting wavetable in various ways - highly experimental.

[SJ_Digriz]

Last night I was messing with about 10 seconds of jazz bass/drum back beat. Setting the markers as even and on the bass note decay side and kick and snare attack areas, then using an LFO on the formant control keeping it on the low side. When you do the random start with multi-osc, you get a really rhythmic overtone system going.

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HALion 6 wavetable sound - re-synthesized/wave-tabled cello sample (flautato articulation) in two wavetable oscillators, OSC1 was edited on the Spectrum page to modify the harmonics and phases, OSC2 was left untouched.