Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread

[arachnaut]

Since I run Windows, I thought it important to show that Mac users were not unique.

[Sampleconstruct]

My final musical contribution to this thread is a rather cinematic one:

Six instances of Avenger and nothing else, some Macro/modwheel/volume automation and a limiter on the master output - long live Avenger!

https://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/ ... or-avenger

[sircuit]

I just saved a preset and Avenger saved a "init" state. Any preset changes I do & save to this init are saved but damn, just lost one hour of mapping sh_t around.

[arachnaut]

While scrolling through the very fine presets, I encountered many crashes.
I reported these. I am running Avenger 1.0.32.
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Rene sent me a version that works.

[msvs]

I just saved a preset and Avenger saved a "init" state. Any preset changes I do & save to this init are saved but damn, just lost one hour of mapping sh_t around.

thats nearly impossible. We never heard of that. Are you sure you did not accidentially press INIT, or do you even use the DEMO version? Is it reproducable or did it never occur again?

[sircuit]

I just saved a preset and Avenger saved a "init" state. Any preset changes I do & save to this init are saved but damn, just lost one hour of mapping sh_t around.

thats nearly impossible. We never heard of that. Are you sure you did not accidentially press INIT, or do you even use the DEMO version? Is it reproducable or did it never occur again?

- accidentally press init no (there is that huge dialog box I would have noticed it), as I had to name the preset, the new name appeared in avenger's browser but the preset itself is init.
- the entire undo history cleared too - this I checked, after saving a preset there is undo history present when right clicking the button. After I saved this nasty one, the undo list was empty.
- registered version, .32
- this one is new even for me
- the subsequent presets which I made by tweaking 2-3 knobs were saved correctly so I can't reproduce. I will try to remake the whole preset later in the evening anyway so if I will be able to reproduce, I'll get back.

[Coockie1176ln]

- context menu in the expansion browser did not appear when clicking in an empty row, this is now fixed

THANKS!!!!

[bmanic]

@msvs:

Manuel, a tiny little feature request that would make sound design a lot more powerful. Could you please add a simple 1 band EQ to the filter section? One that takes as little CPU as possible (so yeah, any basic EQ like in the FX section EQ). Could you set it up so that when the resonance knob is at 12 o'clock position, the EQ adds nothing and cuts nothing. While when it's at either extreme it cuts or boosts 24dB (or whatever you have as basic maximum for your EQs.. 24 would be ideal though).

Why is this useful?

1) Basic polyphonic "bad-resonance" control and limiting over sound sources. This can be done by mapping keytracking to cutoff position, thus every single key will have it's proper EQ notch or boost at exactly the chosen fundamental frequency (or whatever frequency has the problem). This is a _super_ powerful feature and one of the key secrets to making very polished presets that sound good over a huge keyboard range, even when using "bad" sound sources.

2) Very cpu friendly which means you can stack up quite a few of these to create interesting stacked filter systems.

Alternative placement for EQ: Shaper section. It could be in one of the drop down menus.. or just a simple button that disables the waveshaper but keeps the two EQ's where they are. Probably this would be the best place to have this feature.

Cheers!
bManic

[kokotte]

Alternative placement for EQ: Shaper section. It could be in one of the drop down menus.. or just a simple button that disables the waveshaper but keeps the two EQ's where they are. Probably this would be the best place to have this feature.

Cheers!
bManic

+1

[msvs]

@msvs:

Manuel, a tiny little feature request that would make sound design a lot more powerful. Could you please add a simple 1 band EQ to the filter section? One that takes as little CPU as possible (so yeah, any basic EQ like in the FX section EQ). Could you set it up so that when the resonance knob is at 12 o'clock position, the EQ adds nothing and cuts nothing. While when it's at either extreme it cuts or boosts 24dB (or whatever you have as basic maximum for your EQs.. 24 would be ideal though).

thats already there. The "ANA PEAK" filter type boosts. And for a cut you can use one of the Notch filter types

[Coockie1176ln]

@msvs:

Manuel, a tiny little feature request that would make sound design a lot more powerful. Could you please add a simple 1 band EQ to the filter section? One that takes as little CPU as possible (so yeah, any basic EQ like in the FX section EQ). Could you set it up so that when the resonance knob is at 12 o'clock position, the EQ adds nothing and cuts nothing. While when it's at either extreme it cuts or boosts 24dB (or whatever you have as basic maximum for your EQs.. 24 would be ideal though).

Why is this useful?

1) Basic polyphonic "bad-resonance" control and limiting over sound sources. This can be done by mapping keytracking to cutoff position, thus every single key will have it's proper EQ notch or boost at exactly the chosen fundamental frequency (or whatever frequency has the problem). This is a _super_ powerful feature and one of the key secrets to making very polished presets that sound good over a huge keyboard range, even when using "bad" sound sources.

2) Very cpu friendly which means you can stack up quite a few of these to create interesting stacked filter systems.

Alternative placement for EQ: Shaper section. It could be in one of the drop down menus.. or just a simple button that disables the waveshaper but keeps the two EQ's where they are. Probably this would be the best place to have this feature.

Cheers!
bManic

an eq before filter section? there is fft editor. its basically works same thing

[bmanic]

@msvs:

Manuel, a tiny little feature request that would make sound design a lot more powerful. Could you please add a simple 1 band EQ to the filter section? One that takes as little CPU as possible (so yeah, any basic EQ like in the FX section EQ). Could you set it up so that when the resonance knob is at 12 o'clock position, the EQ adds nothing and cuts nothing. While when it's at either extreme it cuts or boosts 24dB (or whatever you have as basic maximum for your EQs.. 24 would be ideal though).

thats already there. The "ANA PEAK" filter type boosts. And for a cut you can use one of the Notch filter types

Unfortunately this is not at all as effective and will sound very different. Especially the notch is not at all a solution to the problem.. and the ANA PEAK is way too resonant as it can't be made all that wide at boosting.

Please, consider it. A basic polyphonic EQ. It's basically built in to the Shaper module already. Couldn't you just make a feature where the actual shaper is turned off and we get just the EQ?

[bmanic]

an eq before filter section? there is fft editor. its basically works same thing

No. It is not.

Man.. it's slightly confusing to me that nobody seems to understand the use for this. It's very unfortunate.

[exmatproton]

an eq before filter section? there is fft editor. its basically works same thing

No. It is not.

Man.. it's slightly confusing to me that nobody seems to understand the use for this. It's very unfortunate.

Or, it is so specific and minor, that it isn't worth the trouble.

[bmanic]

Right.. that's good rationale. Very reminiscent of the times we live in. "Gee wiz.. if I can't understand something and the suggestion I gave, which is completely different and irrelevant, let's just call the problem non-existent or minor".

Well done sir.

If anybody is actually interested in understanding the issue I may give another go in explaining the reason for wanting a polyphonic EQ that can be modulated with keytracking range at a later stage. Right now I'm too tired to even bother.