Tone2 Saurus2...The Great Underrated?

[chk071]

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely check it out in demo.
So, If I want analoguish synth from tone2, Do you recommend Icarus?
I was considering Electra and Nemesis.

I would say Saurus is the closest to what you wish for. But, as mentioned, IMO, other synths do that better really. Saurus, and the other Tone2 synths are good VA synths in their own right, but, for a good analog emulation, i'd check out the latest iterations of other manufacturers. If you're into Tone2's synths, and don't mind "analog", i'd check out Icarus, which IMO is not only one of their best sounding synths, but, at least, has a straight forward approach, unlike some of their other synths, and is also very versatile, because it does all kinds of stuff, VA, wavetable, even has some (all?) of Nemesis' FM modes, and so on.

[nicksohn]

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely check it out in demo.
So, If I want analoguish synth from tone2, Do you recommend Icarus?
I was considering Electra and Nemesis.

I would say Saurus is the closest to what you wish for. But, as mentioned, IMO, other synths do that better really. Saurus, and the other Tone2 synths are good VA synths in their own right, but, for a good analog emulation, i'd check out the latest iterations of other manufacturers. If you're into Tone2's synths, and don't mind "analog", i'd check out Icarus, which IMO is not only one of their best sounding synths, but, at least, has a straight forward approach, unlike some of their other synths, and is also very versatile, because it does all kinds of stuff, VA, wavetable, even has some (all?) of Nemesis' FM modes, and so on.

Hm.. I already have diva and monark, and had arturia, xils lab, and checked so many other analoguish synths.
and I just found I like Saurus's sound. But It also has weak point for me as i mentioned (mostly, Feature-wise), and It is not a perfect synth. It can not cover all sort of sounds, but It definitely Fill up the deficit of my arsenal.
Do you have any recommendation?
(My next target is.. maybe TAL synths. not sure yet.)

[Ingonator]

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely check it out in demo.
So, If I want analoguish synth from tone2, Do you recommend Icarus?
I was considering Electra and Nemesis.

I would say Saurus is the closest to what you wish for. But, as mentioned, IMO, other synths do that better really. Saurus, and the other Tone2 synths are good VA synths in their own right, but, for a good analog emulation, i'd check out the latest iterations of other manufacturers. If you're into Tone2's synths, and don't mind "analog", i'd check out Icarus, which IMO is not only one of their best sounding synths, but, at least, has a straight forward approach, unlike some of their other synths, and is also very versatile, because it does all kinds of stuff, VA, wavetable, even has some (all?) of Nemesis' FM modes, and so on.

Saurus 2 is not thought to be a replacement for e.g The Legend or Repro-1. Apples and oranges really.

Icarus is also no full replacement for Nemesis while the FM morph modes indeed are based on the "NeoFM" technology of Nemesis so this is "real" FM and no phase modulation.
Anyway Icarus used a "virtual" modulator" osc with e.g Sine, Saw or Suare" but could not do Fm with one of the main oscillators. InMemesis you could use any waveform for both the carrier and oscillator and it also offers other options not available in Icarus the same way.

Besides that Icarus inded packs some options of Saurus and Nemesis (and also Electra 2.1) into a single plugin but is no full replacement for all those. If i would have to choose a single plugin from Tone2 currently it might be Icarus indeed. i am happy i do not have to decide to use only a single plugin from them.

[nicksohn]

I bought Synth legend and Analog sound sets.

I love them! they makes me more retro!!

[nicksohn]

I made this just for fun.
I used 2 Saurus instances with XLN midi file and Addictive Drums with some samples.
No external effects except a little touch of Total Bus compressor.

https://soundcloud.com/nicksohn/sarus

[chk071]

Funky.

[Hanz Meyzer]

Mmh, I would love tone2 stuff, but... All presets sound in all of their synths like "Uplifting Trance", and really, that limiter should not be there in a synth. Instead there should be a compressor, or better nothing. Somehow even the unison in their synths sounds like trance. I also miss some real analog greatness and also nice dynamics and transients in all of their synths. No, I don't mean an extra added attack transient. If a preset uses a limiter and sounds total straight, IMO there is something wrong.

I really like the dsp side from tine2 synths, seems to be rock solid programmed and totally cpu friendly. I guess they even code in assembler for time critical parts...

[flakes2]

Saurus2 doen't come with a limiter or compressor. There is only a reverb and a chorus effect and some kind of bass boost.
The other tone2 synths have a compressor as (optional) insert effect.
Icarus is the only one with a master limiter

[exmatproton]

Saurus2 doen't come with a limiter or compressor. There is only a reverb and a chorus effect and some kind of bass boost.
The other tone2 synths have a compressor as (optional) insert effect.
Icarus is the only one with a master limiter

+ 'tube'. For some saturation/distortion

[nicksohn]

Looks like saurus 2.5 is out.

[nicksohn]

New features:

- Drag & Drop modulation: Drag an envelope or lfo and drop it to a knob to modulate it
- Midi learn support: Right-click on a knob to assign or remove a CC
- Right-click on a knob opens a menu where you can assign a massive amount of modulation sources
- Hovering the mouse over a knob shows a box with information
- Modulation depth control on top left of a knob if a source is assigned
- Sectors on knobs show the modulation amount
- A red sector is shown when clipping of modulation occurs
- File->'Show version info' shows the version number of Saurus
- Right-click on a knob and 'reset' resets a knob to the default value
- File->'reset midi learn' removes all CC assignments
- File->'Clean matrix' cleans up the mod matrix and resets unused slots
- Right-click on a knob and 'remove modulation' removes all assigned mod sources
- Tooltips are shown when the mouse is hovered over a button




Enhancements:

- More beautiful background skin
- Enhanced sound of the Reverb: Less detuned sound and more beautiful early reflections
- Enhanced sound of the PingPong delay: Added a lowCut filter
- Enhanced sound of the Delay: No more detuning and a more wide sound
- Enhanced sound of microtuning
- Better sound quality: New high-end resampling algorithm
- More bass and warmer sound
- More linear frequency response in 'linear mode'
- Faster Volume Envelope for more punch
- Saurus v2.5 'fits better to the mix'
- New knobs with enhanced performance
- Parameters are more easy to adjust
- Patch rankings are now stored as .rnk files within Saurus_sounds
- Fat Unison is more easy to setup
- More 'bottom' if a new patch is initialized
- Texts are more easy to read
- Activation dialogue is now also available in German language
- Faster loading of 32bit PC version
- More robustness
- Faster patch loading
- Lower CPU on Mac




Fixes:

- Better compatibility with Fruity Loops
- Matrix source 'random' did not work in legato mode
- It is not longer possible to click on the VU diodes
- Fixed a very unlikely but possible crash

[exmatproton]

Fixes:

- Better compatibility with Fruity Loops

This guy refuses to use the actual name of the DAW, FL Studio. I wrote to him about it, Scott (IL) did as well and still........

[Examigan]

Fixes:

- Better compatibility with Fruity Loops

This guy refuses to use the actual name of the DAW, FL Studio. I wrote to him about it, Scott (IL) did as well and still........

That's what it used to be called before shortening it to just FL, so maybe he is just used to referring to it that way.

[exmatproton]

Fixes:

- Better compatibility with Fruity Loops

This guy refuses to use the actual name of the DAW, FL Studio. I wrote to him about it, Scott (IL) did as well and still........

That's what it used to be called before shortening it to just FL, so maybe he is just used to referring to it that way.

That was so many years ago. in 2004 they rebranded Fruity Loops to FL Studio. I just don't get it.
I would think the a prof. company would use the name of the software the right way...

[ariston]

A guy at the local music store still says "Fruity Loops" to convey his disdain for what he deems a "DAW for kids and amateurs" (he's SO professional).

Might be just an oversight. I wouldn't read TOO much into it.