Does FLStudio have PDC?

[jmh]

Ahh, nothing like some serious fanboy to brighten up the day and to make the thread more interesting

The sky surely would have fallen if Mirabebe hadn't appeared, proving not only he fails to read and/or comprehend the issues, but also directing the thread elsewhere with his typical attitude problem filled ramblings... =)

It even beats Spaceman's spectacular imitation of teenage argumentation "you called me something too!!!", whoopee

It's just ridiculous that for the most part (excluding me), it's FL users talking about the issue, the other side trying to make it clear why such and such a feature would be improvement, and the other side - fanboys spending more time on forums getting their post count up - keep on proving why participating in forums is bad for them in the first place as it requires such skills as actually reading, not to mention comprehending what's being said...

Btw Mirabebe, mr. "can't read, can't understand", it's major issue in this conversation that people DO actually use FL and would oh so very much like to use those excellent plugins in FL without the hassle it currently is, instead of going to alternate hosts - the number one reason being they feel FL is superior, more inspiring, more suited to them, prettier, younameit... but hey, it's one of those things that just doesn't reach you, and doesn't really surprise anyone

But hey, there's some pleasure in reading this. At least I know that the other side includes people who're semi- or professionals who earn their bread making music, whereas the fanboy side has so far proven that all they're capable of is whining about any feature request / bug comment / suggestion for an improvement on forums, attempting something vaguely reminescent of humor cleary due to lack of any sensible feedback and resort to name calling since that at least gets other fanboys to join cause (and apparently taking it into other threads, hey Spaceman =)

Keep up the good fight girls. Meanwhile, hopefully Gol will shed some light into matters and perhaps can answer a question or two...

Which reminds me. Gol, any chance on raising the number of internal controllers? Even doubling them, not to mention going higher, would allow Dashboarders to really build a dashboard or two that introduced a certain feature to FL it hasn't had so far and has been frequently asked for... (this is for those capable of actually thinking, I'm not going to mention any particular features since the fanboys would only get more fuel to their empty argumentation, but others will rather easily what I might be hinting at )

JMH

[smart]

I'm starting to understand gol's attitude towards end users if he has to constantly deal with this.

exactly.

[jmh]

Kingston, it's no surprise. Most Logic users have reach at least some level of maturity and tend to be working on music seriously, not to mention earning something while doing so.

While most of the FL userbase, especially those most active on forums, are aspiring wannabe bedroom techno DJs still battling with understanding basic terms related to music and production, wasting most of their time bitching on the forums when their cool techno DJ gadget is "slammed" by people who dare suggest any kind of improvements...

As proven over and over Browsing thru FL related threads here oughta give some good laughs, normally followed by a feeling that the fanboys spend an awful lot of time on the forums anyways...

JMH

[spaceman]

Ahh, nothing like some serious fanboy to brighten up the day and to make the thread more interesting

The sky surely would have fallen if Mirabebe hadn't appeared, proving not only he fails to read and/or comprehend the issues, but also directing the thread elsewhere with his typical attitude problem filled ramblings... =)

It even beats Spaceman's spectacular imitation of teenage argumentation "you called me something too!!!", whoopee

It's just ridiculous that for the most part (excluding me), it's FL users talking about the issue, the other side trying to make it clear why such and such a feature would be improvement, and the other side - fanboys spending more time on forums getting their post count up - keep on proving why participating in forums is bad for them in the first place as it requires such skills as actually reading, not to mention comprehending what's being said...

Btw Mirabebe, mr. "can't read, can't understand", it's major issue in this conversation that people DO actually use FL and would oh so very much like to use those excellent plugins in FL without the hassle it currently is, instead of going to alternate hosts - the number one reason being they feel FL is superior, more inspiring, more suited to them, prettier, younameit... but hey, it's one of those things that just doesn't reach you, and doesn't really surprise anyone

But hey, there's some pleasure in reading this. At least I know that the other side includes people who're semi- or professionals who earn their bread making music, whereas the fanboy side has so far proven that all they're capable of is whining about any feature request / bug comment / suggestion for an improvement on forums, attempting something vaguely reminescent of humor cleary due to lack of any sensible feedback and resort to name calling since that at least gets other fanboys to join cause (and apparently taking it into other threads, hey Spaceman =)

Keep up the good fight girls. Meanwhile, hopefully Gol will shed some light into matters and perhaps can answer a question or two...

Which reminds me. Gol, any chance on raising the number of internal controllers? Even doubling them, not to mention going higher, would allow Dashboarders to really build a dashboard or two that introduced a certain feature to FL it hasn't had so far and has been frequently asked for... (this is for those capable of actually thinking, I'm not going to mention any particular features since the fanboys would only get more fuel to their empty argumentation, but others will rather easily what I might be hinting at )

JMH

listen asswhipe.. it's you who are behind the facts.. about 2 days to be precise.. we all know what the problem is already (apart from you being a total wanker that is).. the fact is that we don't give a shit and to be frankly, if I were a developer and I had a few obnoctious idiots wanking on like this I would have told them to f**k off days ago. Who the f**k do you think you are anyway? Do you think that every developer has to jump everytime there's a piece of piss complaining about something he doens't like? You're just a pretentious little shit who thinks he's can demand more than the rest..

So please, with sugar on top.. piss off already and go annoy a few other developers.. I'm sure there's enough vitriol in you to burn a full forrest.. don't waste all your great positive energy on just the one developer.

[Mirabebe]

Keep up the good fight girls. Meanwhile, hopefully Gol will shed some light into matters and perhaps can answer a question or two...

Are you dense? In how many words you need to be told "No, there will be no work done on PDC"? This is what this whole thread is about - people dealing with rejection. A painful thread that is.

[spaceman]

Kingston, it's no surprise. Most Logic users have reach at least some level of maturity and tend to be working on music seriously, not to mention earning something while doing so.

While most of the FL userbase, especially those most active on forums, are aspiring wannabe bedroom techno DJs still battling with understanding basic terms related to music and production, wasting most of their time bitching on the forums when their cool techno DJ is "slammed" by people who dare suggest any kind of improvements...

As proven over and over Browsing thru FL related threads here oughta give some good laughs, normally followed by a feeling that the fanboys spend an awful lot of time on the forums anyways...

JMH

I'd love to hear some of that professional music of yours.. I;m sure it's amazing and extremely professional and probably as f**king pretentious as you are..

f**king troll

you seem to care a lot about that 'bedroom' tool for being such a 'professional'

[jmh]

Ohh, now the fanboys are getting pissed off

Perhaps the both of you really should learn to read? And avoid the obvious comebacks to posts?

Go ahead, read the posts more carefully, even such forum professionals with huge post counts should be able to grasp a clue or two...

Try it, it will be a new experience to you.

JMH

[spaceman]

Ohh, now the fanboys are getting pissed off

Perhaps the both of you really should learn to read? And avoid the obvious comebacks to posts?

Go ahead, read the posts more carefully, even such forum professionals with huge post counts should be able to grasp a clue or two...

Try it, it will be a new experience to you.

JMH

your talking out of your ass
and I'm sure that's where your professional music comes from too

[jmh]

Just in case anyone else feels as lost as these two little wankers who appear on every FL thread just to call people names (I see a quote coming with Spaceman yelling "you did it too!!!!"), I for one am not bashing FL, just making fun of you fanboys with your issues about pretty much everything.

Meanwhile, I'm also participating in a discussion with the developer, who for one reads what's being said, answers the questions, etc - something you two masterminds fail to understand completely. In case you didn't notice, there are still questions asked in a polite manner that hopefully will get answered.

But most likely not because of you two little girls feeling insecure with your fancy toy... *sigh*

JMH

[jmh]

Since it's obviously too hard for Spaceman, some clarifications might be necessary

I've already mentioned I'm not an owner/user of FL - how hard was it to read that part? Rather difficult, it seems.

I'm also excluding myself from the previous generalisation about FL users vs. others, I'm simply talking about people whose work I know who have participated in this thread - something else that apparently won't get through to fanboys

Furthermore, any reference to 'fancy toy' refers solely to you fangirls and your attitude - or rather attitude problems, instead of FL. I've already mentioned it how I personally feel about FL, I also stated how I feel about IL and Gol - I appreciate them and consider them every bit as good as their product.

Now, if only the diehard thickheaded tossers would let the thread continue revolving around the topic discussed, instead of whining, resorting to their usual assinine remarks and comebacks everybody sees coming far ahead of them being written, now that would mean for once the sky is closing in on us =)

Fanboys - a lot in common with the alleged bad reputation concerning the application and the company being discussed...

JMH

[Mirabebe]

Do you have a point or the issue can be considered milked to death?

You asked for PDC. You were told that it would be useful, but there will be no work done on it now. You were told that it will possibly make it into FL someday. You protested. You were told that whatever your arguments - they are not strong enough to warrant immediate attention to PDC.

End of story.

What is your motivation to continue your participation?

No, there will be no PDC in FL until there will be PDC in FL. The moment of it's arrival will be announced as the moment of it's arrival when it's ready to arrive.

I assure you that your efforts to offend me will not come to fruition - i place the importance of opinions of people on forums like this one somewhere between zero and nothing.

[Stupid American Pig]

I guess I am more amazed that if people think that they argue their point hard enough on this 3rd party forum, the developers will suddenly decide to implement this. It seems to me that they are more likely to just ignore the forum since the issue cannot be discussed civily.

All that we have here is a bunch of people who are asking for a change on an unofficial forum, and resorting to personal attacks and inflammitory language when someone disagrees. C'est la vie on the net I suppose.

[Igor 4000]

You asked for PDC. You were told that it would be useful, but there will be no work done on it now. You were told that it will possibly make it into FL someday.

I actually don't remember reading all this, but nonetheless it's good news and, very hopefully, good enough to put an end to this miserable thread.

Another suggestion to end this thread, Mirabebe, would be to share with us some of the new goodies in version 5

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hm. i dont really get it. if you want to make decent music you have to work with effects. normally you would apply compressors on the different drums and nearly all other channels. a little reverb here, delay there, maybe a limiter? all this neat little stuff (talking about vst-plugs like those nice voxengo effects not the build in fl studio effects). so to make a complete track you maybe have plenty effects running. so without pdc at all, even if i would render the track to wave in fl studio will let some channels be played back delayed and others not?! or is just the whole wave output that is rendered delayed and leaving a little silence in front and maybe a little cut at the end? i am just curious. if the whole thing is delayed together (all the tracks equally) then this would be okay with me for now, if they get delayed differently (dependig on how much delay the individual effects like compressors introduce to the channel) this would be a major bug, wouldnt it?

hm. and dont forget to be NICE to other humans! its worth it

[jmh]

Mirabebe, you actually surprised me such a civilised answer. That's appreciated.

As for the reason to participate in this conversations, questions and answers have lead into other questions, some of the still remain and would probably have been answered if things hadn't gone this way. I hope this is clear enough now?

S_A_P you clearly missed the part of the conversation where all hell broke loose. It wasn't anyone of those people asking about PDC that went down the road of name calling and such, you can read the thread again and see for yourself. This much should be obvious, especially if you read the first answers regarding this name calling, no?

As for "arguing and hoping developers suddenly change their mind"... err. This was a rather civilised conversation where the developer answered questions, until the fanboys attacked. Again, reading the thread reveals this. When it comes to expecting things to change suddenly like that, that's only your assumption. From the beginning, we've posed questions, we've gotten answers, some of us have asked more questions. Not at any time have we been rude towards Gol and his comments, yet again something that can be understood by reading the thread.

As for sinking into Spaceman's and Mirabebe's level. A general apology to other participants is on order and I apologise for that. But for all I care, the fanboys can go ask their moms to register eJay for them to keep them busy instead of wreaking havoc on every FL thread

JMH

* edit: one or more typos again *