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Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:53 pm

If they keep discontinuing products, and putting out half-baked releases, iZotope themselves may get discontinued sooner than they think.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:05 pm

chk071 wrote:Ok, but, at some point, a software, or hardware will be discontinued. That's the reality. And, actually, i'm cooler with company which announce that their product is discontinued, than with companies, who just let a product run out, without announcing anything. A few years ago, one could have meant that Sylenth1 is absolutely dead, for example. Then, out of nowhere, Lennardigital released an update, and is even present in the company's forum again. Very vague, and unsure for the customers.

Absolutely. While hardware have a much longer working span than software, that's the reality. I just meant to point out that while Alloy might work excellent for now, it might be totally broken with the next OS update. But it might also work ten years from now. That's really the only thing I miss about Windows. With Macs, Apple have an awful track record of breaking practically everything. Staying one OS iteration behind the curve is the only solution when on Mac. Or use Mac Minis as time capsules.

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dreamvoid · Post by **dreamvoid** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:41 pm

DrGonzo wrote:
Absolutely. While hardware have a much longer working span than software, that's the reality. I just meant to point out that while Alloy might work excellent for now, it might be totally broken with the next OS update. But it might also work ten years from now. That's really the only thing I miss about Windows. With Macs, Apple have an awful track record of breaking practically everything. Staying one OS iteration behind the curve is the only solution when on Mac. Or use Mac Minis as time capsules.

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This is the strength of Waves: continuous platform support even of the oldest plug ins. It must be around 20 years ago now when Waves founder Gilad Keren gave me personally a copy of L1 as a gift. This plug in can be used in any PC and Mac environment since then. And this goes on with all Waves plug ins. This a great achievement and many pros are therefore supporting Waves.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:48 pm

dreamvoid wrote:
DrGonzo wrote:
Absolutely. While hardware have a much longer working span than software, that's the reality. I just meant to point out that while Alloy might work excellent for now, it might be totally broken with the next OS update. But it might also work ten years from now. That's really the only thing I miss about Windows. With Macs, Apple have an awful track record of breaking practically everything. Staying one OS iteration behind the curve is the only solution when on Mac. Or use Mac Minis as time capsules.

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This is the strength of Waves: continuous platform support even of the oldest plug ins. It must be around 20 years ago now when Waves founder Gilad Keren gave me personally a copy of L1 as a gift. This plug in can be used in any PC and Mac environment since then. And this goes on with all Waves plug ins. This a great achievement and many pros are therefore supporting Waves.

That's really a great insight. I never thought of it that way, but you are completely correct. All my Waves plugins are working perfectly and as far as I know - no plugs have ever been discontinued.

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DubLifeSD · Post by **DubLifeSD** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:46 pm

I'm still scratching my head on why they removed the gate in both Ozone AND Neutron....wth

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:25 am

On the positive side, I'm still very happy with Ozone Advanced and Neutron, as well as Nectar, Trash and Alloy2.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:11 am

I ditched iZotope years ago. When I read this type of thing, man I'm so glad I did and do not support them anymore.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:26 am

I still use them for RX4, because I got a great price on it and it's fantastic for noise reduction. Other than that iZotope is overrated and worthless.

djshire · Post by **djshire** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:00 pm

I bought Alloy 2 at some huge discount years ago, and never really used it. I've learned that I don't care for channel strips, unless said strip has a certain component that I really like (the gate on SSL strips for example), so this isn't a major loss. I also got Ozone 4 back when I was starting as a producer, and again, another product I have used very little of.

ErikH · Post by **ErikH** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:35 pm

I have Iris, Iris2 and Alloy 2.

I liked Iris a lot. Then came Iris 2. With known bugs. But iZotope just don't care because they are already up to something new.
This is why I don't buy from them anymore.

BetaAltairVII · Post by **BetaAltairVII** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:49 pm

I guess I'm a fan of iZotope for having products that in my experience have both very strong capabilities in one package alongside intuitive user interfaces. Their actual software is down pat, and some stuff they have is genuinely unique (BreakTweaker and to some degree Iris) alongside incredibly powerful (Trash 2, Stutter Edit, and all the praise I've seen about Ozone, RX and the like). But yeah, their management could do a little better. They like abandonware too much - the only update they've given to their "creative" software in the last six years was Iris 2, and I thankfully avoided it by getting a lone box of Iris 1 at a blowout sale for $25

Whatevs. I have what I need from them, and I probably won't give them more money until they update what I have.

Alloy 2 now discontinued