What's Not To Like About The Beatles?

[jacqueslacouth]

I don't like . . . that they broke-up. I'd like to imagine that they might have continued to mature both as musicians and as humans - together. Example would be bands like U2 : stayed together in spite of the fame and grew.

Those of you haters - I'd challenge you to name one musician who is capable or writing a better melody than P.McCartney.

The Wiggles

You know, just yesterday I drove by a bus stop and saw an ad for scientology. It occurred to me that it was somebody's job to sort out exactly where to put those ads and to evaluate how well they were performing and what-not. I found the idea of doing that for a living somewhat depressing, but, coming up with these songs, and then recording them? I think I'd rather pimp scientology.

Back in the day Jeff and Anthony were members of a pretty damned fine pop group, the Cockroaches. You may recognise the chef in the fruit salad video as the late Paul Hester of Crowded House fame. I always thought melodically the Beatles would have made a fine nursery rhyme band.

[ghettosynth]

Yes, but those guys made TONS of money from that vile filth. I'd have to seriously consider selling out if the opportunity presented itself.

You only make the money after selling out though, right? So, that's some kind of gamble. I couldn't do it, I can see my trajectory now.

[donkey tugger]

I probably sail slightly against the prevailing orthodoxy in that for me Macartney was always a better writer than Lennon.

Life goes on... BRAH!!!!

You lie!

[harryupbabble]

I still don't totally totally get it. How can anyone not like a band that has a member who can write not only melodies that stick but hard-to-forget lyrics as well? Like these:

I'm gonna get you ready for my polygon.
Like a rabbit I'm gonna grabbit.
Sweet banana, you've never been done.

[jacqueslacouth]

I still don't totally totally get it. How can anyone not like a band that has a member who can write not only melodies that stick but hard-to-forget lyrics as well? Like these:

I'm gonna get you ready for my polygon.
Like a rabbit I'm gonna grabbit.
Sweet banana, you've never been done.

Never dropped acid huh?

[harryupbabble]

I've never done bad things, I've never done anything out of the blue.

[dune_rave]

Hmm. I can't really mention anything... on the other hand I listened several Imagine covers and I enjoyed it. I think we should be at that era to really understand what Beatles means. So gimme a time machine!

[AnX]

Well, the beatles were a point in time. They werent even the best band of that time.

They recorded some great songs, and some real duffers....pretty much like most bands.

I still listen to some stuff now and again. I actually listened to revolver last night... coincidence

[dark water]

I like many of their songs, although some of them just bore me.
For me, at their best, the Beatles and ABBA epitomize what catchy melody writing is all about.

This book is particularly good for anyone starting out in music and creating their own melodies and harmonies - I would recommend it to Beatles fans and non-fans alike:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Songwriting-Se ... 0711981671


However, IF I were looking for a reason to dislike the Beatles, it would be the pretense and hypocrisy surrounding John Lennon's love preaching at a time when he was being a complete and utter shit to his son and first wife.
Take the money John and run away from your responsibilities to Julian...


(from Wikipedia, Julian Lennon):
"I've never really wanted to know the truth about how dad was with me. There was some very negative stuff talked about me ... like when he said I'd come out of a whiskey bottle on a Saturday night. Stuff like that. You think, where's the love in that? Paul and I used to hang about quite a bit ... more than Dad and I did. We had a great friendship going and there seems to be far more pictures of me and Paul playing together at that age than there are pictures of me and my dad."

Julian was also irked by hearing his father's peace-loving stance perpetually celebrated. He told the Daily Telegraph, "I have to say that, from my point of view, I felt he was a hypocrite", he said, "Dad could talk about peace and love out loud to the world but he could never show it to the people who supposedly meant the most to him: his wife and son. How can you talk about peace and love and have a family in bits and pieces—no communication, adultery, divorce? You can't do it, not if you're being true and honest with yourself."

Julian Lennon was excluded from his father's will...


John Lennon was a complete c**t to his son.

[mellotronaut]

i'm a member of the Church of McCartneyism-Lennonism too and i live in this country for a long time now. there is nothing to discuss, really ... just a matter of experiences, likes and dislikes.

the original poster reminds me of a KvR-member called 'sHush' ... so "hidee!" ... if you are some kind of karma reinvestigation.

[mcnoone]

I like many of their songs, although some of them just bore me.
For me, at their best, the Beatles and ABBA epitomize what catchy melody writing is all about.

This book is particularly good for anyone starting out in music and creating their own melodies and harmonies - I would recommend it to Beatles fans and non-fans alike:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Songwriting-Se ... 0711981671


However, IF I were looking for a reason to dislike the Beatles, it would be the pretense and hypocrisy surrounding John Lennon's love preaching at a time when he was being a complete and utter shit to his son and first wife.
Take the money John and run away from your responsibilities to Julian...


(from Wikipedia, Julian Lennon):
"I've never really wanted to know the truth about how dad was with me. There was some very negative stuff talked about me ... like when he said I'd come out of a whiskey bottle on a Saturday night. Stuff like that. You think, where's the love in that? Paul and I used to hang about quite a bit ... more than Dad and I did. We had a great friendship going and there seems to be far more pictures of me and Paul playing together at that age than there are pictures of me and my dad."

Julian was also irked by hearing his father's peace-loving stance perpetually celebrated. He told the Daily Telegraph, "I have to say that, from my point of view, I felt he was a hypocrite", he said, "Dad could talk about peace and love out loud to the world but he could never show it to the people who supposedly meant the most to him: his wife and son. How can you talk about peace and love and have a family in bits and pieces—no communication, adultery, divorce? You can't do it, not if you're being true and honest with yourself."

Julian Lennon was excluded from his father's will...


John Lennon was a complete c**t to his son.

Very well stated. Yet we all know that we all have personal weaknesses and failures, that we never work out. Yet the message might have been better than the messenger in this case. Not only that, but the message itself, might not have actually been the "peace and love" thing that was intended, but something a bit deeper than that. Something that needed to be expressed at that time, that even a personal failure could make, and it would be useful.
This is not an excuse for the failures of John Lennon, but the understanding that we don't need to judge others more harshly than ourselves, given our own weaknesses and failures.

I saw Julian Lennon in a live show in Miami in 86ish, and he was an excellent musician and singer in his own right. It was particularly great, as Elton John made a special appearance then, and it was a really great concert.

[mcnoone]

I've never done bad things

What you reference is most likely, one of the best things in this awful existence.
Your reference to it as "bad things" is very misguided...I assure you.
It is an experience that can change a persons life forever, for better or worse.

[Aloysius]

They were a total rip-off of The Monkees.

[bibz1st]

Those of you haters - I'd challenge you to name one musician who is capable or writing a better melody than P.McCartney.

Although sometimes compared to the Beatles, I would be hard pressed to think of a better melody writer than Neil Finn.
Of course that's just my opinion and plenty of people have written good melodies.

[chk071]

Better /worse is an immensely bad measurement when it comes to something as subjective as music.