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audiothing · Post by **audiothing** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:01 pm

Nielzie wrote:I'm curious about the cpu use of this one. Can anyone from the beta test tell something about that?

These are just a few tests on my MacBook Pro (Mid 2012, 2.5Ghz i5, 16GB RAM) with Ableton Live 9, using both Echo and Reverb on a simple audio loop:

@44.1kHz, no oversample, HQ mode off: ~3% CPU
@48kHz, no oversample, HQ mode off: ~4% CPU

@44.1kHz, no oversample, HQ mode on: ~5% CPU
@48kHz, no oversample, HQ mode on: ~8% CPU

@44.1kHz, 4x oversample, HQ mode on: ~12% CPU
@48kHz, 4x oversample, HQ mode on: ~15% CPU

Using only the Echo section it's basically half load.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:54 pm

RE-201 sound in a native plugin.
FINALLY!!!!!!!

Outer Space. It's superb.

for 39 bucks
nuff said

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:58 pm

Nielzie wrote:I'm curious about the cpu use of this one. Can anyone from the beta test tell something about that?

On my laptop, less than 1%, even with both spring and delay ON, and oversampling set to x4

djmino02 · Post by **djmino02** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:28 pm

When's the delay coming out?

audiothing · Post by **audiothing** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:14 pm

djmino02 wrote:When's the delay coming out?

Next week, hopefully before the weekend.

dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Let's hope it does and there isn't a large del-- oh wait.

fforet · Post by **fforet** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:08 am

just bought it and love it

thanks audiothing guys/ladies

regards
fforet

audiothing · Post by **audiothing** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:46 pm

dumbledog wrote:Let's hope it does and there isn't a large del-- oh wait.

Well, we are still waiting for some feedba...nevermind

fforet wrote:just bought it and love it

thanks audiothing guys/ladies

Thank you!

annode · Post by **annode** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:37 pm

I own a Roland SP-808. As one of the multi-effects Roland has digitized the Space Echo.
Roland added pan on each of the 3 tape heads.
Roland also added wow & flutter rate and wow & flutter depth.
Bass and treble are each cut and boost with no change at center indent.

The wow and flutter rate & depth control is a very useful inclusion.
I can demonstrate it if you like.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:01 pm

annode wrote:I own a Roland SP-808. As one of the multi-effects Roland has digitized the Space Echo.
Roland added pan on each of the 3 tape heads.
Roland also added wow & flutter rate and wow & flutter depth.
Bass and treble are each cut and boost with no change at center indent.

The wow and flutter rate & depth control is a very useful inclusion.
I can demonstrate it if you like.

Yeah same with my V-Synth

audiothing · Post by **audiothing** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:50 am

annode wrote:I own a Roland SP-808. As one of the multi-effects Roland has digitized the Space Echo.
Roland added pan on each of the 3 tape heads.
Roland also added wow & flutter rate and wow & flutter depth.
Bass and treble are each cut and boost with no change at center indent.

The wow and flutter rate & depth control is a very useful inclusion.
I can demonstrate it if you like.

Yep, as already said, we have plans for a "rear" panel for additional settings such as pan/volume for each head, additional controls for wow, flutter and ducking, pre/de emphasis filter and more...
We'll focus on this in a future update.

annode · Post by **annode** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:28 am

audiothing wrote:
annode wrote:I own a Roland SP-808. As one of the multi-effects Roland has digitized the Space Echo.
Roland added pan on each of the 3 tape heads.
Roland also added wow & flutter rate and wow & flutter depth.
Bass and treble are each cut and boost with no change at center indent.

The wow and flutter rate & depth control is a very useful inclusion.
I can demonstrate it if you like.
Yep, as already said, we have plans for a "rear" panel for additional settings such as pan/volume for each head, additional controls for wow, flutter and ducking, pre/de emphasis filter and more...
We'll focus on this in a future update.

Is that so.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:30 am

Are there any demos of the tape echo yet? I'm a sucker for these things, but since I already own Sound Toys bundle and a Strymon El Capistan, I need to have some sense of how this compares before I buy. I've also toyed with the idea of getting a T-Rex Replicator or a Fulltone, but obviously they're in a *slightly* different price range.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:37 am

deastman wrote:Are there any demos of the tape echo yet? I'm a sucker for these things, but since I already own Sound Toys bundle and a Strymon El Capistan, I need to have some sense of how this compares before I buy. I've also toyed with the idea of getting a T-Rex Replicator or a Fulltone, but obviously they're in a *slightly* different price range.

Holy crap, teh Fulltone Tube Tape Echo is $1600US? I paid $600 for mine. It's the white vinyl version with the stainless top. Back in the day I used real Echoplexes and the RE201. Outer Space really does sound like an RE-201 but I used to have crappy tapes so I am used to more mangled sound. I couldn't afford tape cartridges so I'd roll-my-own using old 1/4" tape. Later I got into winding Ampex 456 onto them and that made a huge difference. and keeping the heads clean and demaged.

Speaking of which - that would be a great feature: adjustable amount of head dirt and magnetization! Those were real-world aspects of tape echos. Also, the mechanical sound of it. I don't know of a tape echo plugin that lets you dial in the mechanical noise of the machines. You couldn't hear it in the output but you could hear all the time when working with the machine. oh and like the softtube, a "shake" for the spring reverb. if a tape echo/reverb had these features it would be a complete emulation.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:44 am

plexuss wrote:
deastman wrote:Are there any demos of the tape echo yet? I'm a sucker for these things, but since I already own Sound Toys bundle and a Strymon El Capistan, I need to have some sense of how this compares before I buy. I've also toyed with the idea of getting a T-Rex Replicator or a Fulltone, but obviously they're in a *slightly* different price range.
Holy crap, teh Fulltone Tube Tape Echo is $1600US? I paid $600 for mine. It's the white vinyl version with the stainless top. Back in the day I used real Echoplexes and the RE201. Outer Space really does sound like an RE-201 but I used to have crappy tapes so I am used to more mangled sound. I couldn't afford tape cartridges so I'd roll-my-own using old 1/4" tape. Later I got into winding Ampex 456 onto them and that made a huge difference. and keeping the heads clean and demaged.

Speaking of which - that would be a great feature: adjustable amount of head dirt and magnetization! Those were real-world aspects of tape echos. Also, the mechanical sound of it. I don't know of a tape echo plugin that lets you dial in the mechanical noise of the machines. You couldn't hear it in the output but you could hear all the time when working with the machine. oh and like the softtube, a "shake" for the spring reverb. if a tape echo/reverb had these features it would be a complete emulation.

And a random, occasional tape break to make life more exciting?

AudioThing Outer Space - Tape Echo - NEW v2.1