Is it me or everything works like shit??

[J-909]

The thing is, what happens is with very basic stuff, like interface or knobs not working, so you cannot even have a workaround..

My keyboard controller died again, and this time I can't fix it, so I've bought a new... controller (mwa haha), but in the meantime, I can't control my software in an expressive, tactile way (which I prefer).

It's frustrating. I remember when I first started I had no synths, just my face and a crappy mono cassette deck. So I'd beatbox, record that, then scream, growl, learned to throat-sing, and make weird noises over it. It sucked, it sounded like shit Like an epileptic autistic cat being raped by a rodent, probably.

I know it's frustrating, as you said your license of Cubase ain't working. And there may be no way to fix that. So you have to try something else. Reaper has unlimited demo. It isn't Cubase (this is good in some ways, bad in others) and it is unfamiliar. And yes, that sucks. It f**king sucks when you're creative, and nobody understands you have this impulse to *EXPRESS* and it is overwhelming, and the general shoddiness of everything gets in the way.

You can still do it. You just have to keep f**king with it. It may never turn out exactly the way you want it to. But if you don't do anything, nothing well ever be done.

Nice to hear is not just me!

[J-909]

Hmmmm ... all my software (and hardware) works fine all the time, and I have a lot.

Oh c'mon, I don't believe it. If it does, feel lucky, it won't last long...

[J-909]

A big moral standard when you run a business will be to make enough money to be able to pay your employees... and live well from your business. A badly run business will not attract many customers, hence you will be keen on making a quality product everyone wants to buy and use. Considering that you spoke about "big businesses", those will the ones with the most customers. So, i don't know exactly why you feel like small businesses would have better business ethics, or moral standards, whatever you consider those.

Anyway, i don't see any of the issues described in the OP could be down to the developers, if other people don't suffer from them. Someone who ONLY has issues, whatever he is using, most likely produces the issues himself.

That's the point. Regardless of the specific issues described in the first post, once a product has the reputation of being buggy, it won't sell well. The moral starts with the product, not the employees. There is no point in employing people for the sake of it, when the product does no longer warrant employing them.

I don't think he ONLY has issues as you say, he probably is so irritated by the ones he does have that he doesn't see all the things that work as expected. It is only human. When one gets emotional, objectivity goes down the drain. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Loving people, for instance, is based on downplaying or even ignoring their deficits

Thaaaank you! That's the point, even if it's me who creeates those issues it doesn't matter I just have them and don't want them..
Let me remind chk071 that there's software with which I don't have any issues at all, so it's probably not going to be my fault...

[J-909]

They were 10/15 years ago, and I haven't changed (neither more intelligent nor more stupid) So I'm pretty sure it's computers that have changed

if I could I would go back to Win 7 and Cubase 6 and the 32 bit pluins I used ,but my new hardware won't let me...

Like I said in the second post, it's you. Software has changed to do more, so you need to learn more in order to use it, but you don't want to, so you blame others. Gee, this story sounds so familiar...?

Like you said... Software has changed to do more, but more shit! Just joking
But I really think software tries to do too much more than it actually can. And please don't suggest it's me not knowing how to use the soft... that's pressuming you know me and you don't...

[J-909]

Thank you all for your replies, I'm not alone in this for what I see!!

Anyway, I'm allready contacting companies (which tires me a lot) and some of the bugs have been recognised by them (even thanking me for letting know). Others kind of "don't believe me" or invite me to send further info//videos/install support applications. I will try to help them polish their softt.

Let me just say to those that have suggested it is due to my ignorance or lack of care that you are being a bit arrogant. Some issues just appear (even if it has just been me) in a particular setup and there is nothing I can do. I am talking about a computer with a clean careful installation of ONLY AUDIO software and only the essential stuff. Some of it works perfect and some of it buggy. Some of those bugs can be passed but others just don't let go on seroiusly.

I think some people are conformist with what they receive and don't get into trouble, and some others like me are the opposite: We try everything and make extensive use of things and that leads to errors

[metamorphosis]

Lower profit margins = skimping on QA. More piracy, more problems.
And of course win10.

[Michael L]

Thanks for responding to the different comments, J-909. Its rare that an OP will take the time to do that. I totally agree with the need for users to constantly work with developers to fix bugs and make their setup work. My setup works perfect now, but only as a result of sending a hundred reports over the years!

But I really think software tries to do too much more than it actually can.

Most software works well on the developer's machine, but we users have so many different OS versions/ hosts/ levels of knowledge/ computer configurations/ installation paths/ plugin formats etc that developers can't anticipate every possible interaction and we users need to have more of a partnership role (which is one reason kvr exists). That's why I say it is us, and not everything being shit..

[incubus]

Lower profit margins = skimping on QA. More piracy, more problems.
And of course win10.

Now see, I don't understand the last part. Other than the "we have vays of making you upgrade" nonsense, it's worked great here. FL studio and bitwig now have proper CPU support and there isn't anything I own that doesn't work.

Of course I use RME as my soundcard and they were one of the first to make sure it worked (I know others haven't) but overall it's a good experience.

I just hate the borg queen forcing updates after I've got things the way I want. But they are always quickly sorted.

[incubus]

BTW, for all those that have misunderstood me completely, I've got launchpad pro, RME babyface, bitwig/FL studio/reason working well with any/all vst's.

My complaints are about the vast sea of issues with hosts in the past, the absurd amount of money and heartache getting here.

[thecontrolcentre]

Hmmmm ... all my software (and hardware) works fine all the time, and I have a lot.

Oh c'mon, I don't believe it. If it does, feel lucky, it won't last long...

I've been using computers and audio software for 25 years or so. I seriously have zero issues with my current setup (Live9, Push, ReMote SL, AK1 and a dozen or so hardware synths). It just works. The only "problem" I've had recently is the lights on my AK1 not working on Win 8.1, but as the audio works as it should, I can live with it. Its a 10 year old interface, after all.

[chk071]

A big moral standard when you run a business will be to make enough money to be able to pay your employees... and live well from your business. A badly run business will not attract many customers, hence you will be keen on making a quality product everyone wants to buy and use. Considering that you spoke about "big businesses", those will the ones with the most customers. So, i don't know exactly why you feel like small businesses would have better business ethics, or moral standards, whatever you consider those.

Anyway, i don't see any of the issues described in the OP could be down to the developers, if other people don't suffer from them. Someone who ONLY has issues, whatever he is using, most likely produces the issues himself.

That's the point. Regardless of the specific issues described in the first post, once a product has the reputation of being buggy, it won't sell well. The moral starts with the product, not the employees. There is no point in employing people for the sake of it, when the product does no longer warrant employing them.

I don't think he ONLY has issues as you say, he probably is so irritated by the ones he does have that he doesn't see all the things that work as expected. It is only human. When one gets emotional, objectivity goes down the drain. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Loving people, for instance, is based on downplaying or even ignoring their deficits

Thaaaank you! That's the point, even if it's me who creeates those issues it doesn't matter I just have them and don't want them..
Let me remind chk071 that there's software with which I don't have any issues at all, so it's probably not going to be my fault...

Then i wonder why this thread is called "Is it me or everything works like shit". And why others argue here that nothing works, even though they have a totally functioning setup, when you dig deeper. Guess if you're looking for issues, or have a general negative perception, everything sucks indeed.

And, no, i'm not in that boat. 99% works here. And for 1%, i can apply workarounds (even though, actually, i couldn't even name the 1% now... maybe some badly coded or maintained stuff). Seriously, who would think that a multi hundred € setup, which is being used in professional production work is, in general, and for everbody, a unstable POS anyway?

[donkey tugger]

There's shit, and then there's;

I used to have 2 of them ... editing was a nightmare.

But did it work?

Yeah, once you read the manual and got used to the sample rates, etc. The audio quality was dubious at best. I used mine for playing live. Used to have to reload one of them during the set coz the memory was so small (512k).

The guy I sold it to found it unfathomable, and never got any music made with it.

For the most part it did work to be fair. Trying to edit the samples on the equally horrific Atari editor sometimes didn't. Midi sample dump; I still have nightmares today. The SX16 did stop functioning once after my electrician friend rewired the plug the wrong way round. At that time he'd stopped working for British Nuclear Fuels.

[Unaspected]

Ironically, the forum timed out and I lost my initial reply.

... once I spend the time to RTFM and get them setup properly.

This is something I do even before purchase. At the very least I will have read up on potential problem areas and skimmed over forums like this and product reviews - whilst trying to work out whether those reviewers have also read the manual or indeed haven't been paid to review. Always start with the one star reviews.

The only impulse purchases I have made have been gifts for others - though, never of an electronic nature.

Everything I need is running fine here.

Always one of these jokers in the bunch

It's unfortunate but I think many people will feel this way. Especially if those people are attempting the ride the crest of new releases. That's a headache I wouldn't want to endure.

I was introduced to computers in 1986 so I've experienced my fair share of hardware failure and software incompatibility. You live and learn though. I simply wouldn't expect everything to run smoothly without first performing some basic research.

There is only one area where I think I might have been lucky: Considering the number of HDs I've owned, I've never had any issues. I have, however, purchased dead RAM and had a PSU die on me - thankfully, that was within warranty so it was replaced and that PSU is still rock solid several years down the line.

Before I purchased the Focusrite Liquid Mix, I followed my usual pattern of researching and found that it likely wasn't compatible with the firewire chipset already available on my MB - even though that was how my Saffire was attached and working fine. So I made sure to buy an expansion card along with the Liquid Mix and it's been working fine ever since.


I'm definitely not suggesting this is fair. It's just the way it is but it doesn't mean everything works like shit.


In terms of audio host software, I'm running FL Studio 11 and Pro Tools 10, mostly with third party plugins under W7x64. Contemplating adding Mixbus 4 to that list.

[J-909]

Ok guys, I definitely don't mean literally everything... I mean too many things (enough to be annoyed).
Of course there's stuff working perfectly for me: Sylenth1 (BUT version 2, with version 3 I was having issues), Massive (tho I dont like the workflow), Cubase 6.5 on Win7, Waves plugins I have, Izotope MBP, MicroTonic.... I'm missiing some definitely!

[incubus]

Everything I need is running fine here.

Always one of these jokers in the bunch

It's unfortunate but I think many people will feel this way.