I was hoping this wouldn't be the case but I tried this out and you are right, there is a lot of aliasing in all modes. Thing is I never noticed this before in my usual use of the Poly-ana so unsure how much of an impact this would be for people - I suppose it depends on particular use.zerocrossing wrote:Put preset 048 "Solo Brass" on at 192 khz. Play some high notes. Not even that high. Wince at the aliasing. Turn "anti-alasing on." Say, "WTF?" Turn anti-aliasing off. Boost quality up to 768. Note it's better, but still noticably aliasing. Load up XILS 4. Never use Poly-Ana again.nusound mind wrote:I don't find the cpu hit bad at all if you adjust things. Anti-aliasing really helps, or turn down sound quality to 192, oversampling, polyphony, etc. Not as high quality obvs., but still sounds decent enough imo even then.
Honestly I think the 3 new gui's are fine, esp. compared to that original one. That first one looks brutal. jmo
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- 6279 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 7578 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
It's not fair to say aliasing is bad, and bandlimited oscillators are good, when the actual processes of Frequency Modulation and such are inherently increasing the required bandwidth. It may even depend on what waveform is chosen, when using FM, as FM is seriously prone to aliasing in ALL synths. So maybe PA is just letting the user go further than acceptable, damn the consequences, full steam ahead. There is enough oversampling to get a good result from even the "wrongest" modulations. On that note, IL Sytrus has 64x oversampling. FM isn't for everyone, or even sane people, so don't worry about it.
- KVRAF
- 19825 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
All I'm saying is both on a 22" Monitor at 1650x1050 and a 27" at 1920x1080 Poly-Ana's GUI is perfectly functional. He's keeps bitching about things being Microscopic. There is a solution.chaosWyrM wrote:this.rod_zero wrote:
So if wagtunes is using an old monitor he already has a good size of GUI, a new one will only make it smaller.
i dont know why you guys are telling him to get a bigger/better monitor if hes already complaining that guis are too small. larger monitor = smaller gui
I haven't used a 17" monitor for 18 years......for good reason.
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- KVRAF
- 19825 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
YES ! Even before the new GUIs.....but then I know what I'm doing.......david.beholder wrote:Can you use it or program it's ugly UI? No! .Teksonik wrote: Is Poly-Ana perfect ? No. Is it worth $45 ? In my opinion Yes.
Mike is a jerk. I told him his attitude would cost him sales and he laughed it off. If his attitude bothers you then don't buy Poly-Ana. I've owned it for years and I love it.........david.beholder wrote:Can you stand to dev attitude? No.
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- KVRAF
- 19825 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
It doesn't sound cheap or sub-par here. Maybe you need new speakers....or ears...zerocrossing wrote:You're right. If you want cheap and subpar sound, it's the one to go for.Teksonik wrote:I'm sorry did I miss the link to where XILS 4 dropped from $190 to $45 and dropped the requirement for iLok ?zerocrossing wrote: Load up XILS 4. Never use Poly-Ana again.
Is Poly-Ana perfect ? No. Is it worth $45 ? In my opinion Yes.
Oh and try the AA button............
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- KVRAF
- 19825 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Those are called "controls" and they make the sound. If Poly-Ana is too complex for you or $45 is too much then pass. Pretty simple.wagtunes wrote: The problem is not the size of the GUI, though it could be a little bigger. The problem is with all the crap that they crammed into one screen.
Just please stop bitching about "Microscopic" GUI's until you join the 21st century.........
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- KVRian
- 529 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
I'm having a hard time authorizing the Beta 1.3 on MacOSX 10.12.3. I created a folder in MacHD/Library/Application Support/Admiral Quality/Poly-Ana and placed the authorizing text file in there. I Restarted Live, and no-go when I launched Poly-Ana....still in demo mode. I know I'm doing something wrong. Just not sure what it is
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- KVRist
- 445 posts since 3 Feb, 2017
Delete .txt so your file ends with .key .W23 wrote:I'm having a hard time authorizing the Beta 1.3 on MacOSX 10.12.3. I created a folder in MacHD/Library/Application Support/Admiral Quality/Poly-Ana and placed the authorizing text file in there. I Restarted Live, and no-go when I launched Poly-Ana....still in demo mode. I know I'm doing something wrong. Just not sure what it is
Also, make sure it's in the "hidden" MacHD/user/library/Application Support directory.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I don't think it is about SSE.nicksohn wrote:Ryzen has SSE?
I heard PAis optimized for Intel SSE.
Either way, there are various version of SSE, and I think SSE 2 is the most common one with plugins. Our Phenom II processors do support SSE 1 to 4, albeit not all sub-versions of those. For instance not 4.1 and 4.2, but only 4a. Not sure what consequences that has, you would have to ask a developer
- KVRAF
- 22961 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Again, the GUI itself is not too small. But when you put too many controls on one page, each individual control becomes too small. I can't read the descriptions of each individual control. Getting a larger monitor is NOT GOING TO FIX THAT.Teksonik wrote:Those are called "controls" and they make the sound. If Poly-Ana is too complex for you or $45 is too much then pass. Pretty simple.wagtunes wrote: The problem is not the size of the GUI, though it could be a little bigger. The problem is with all the crap that they crammed into one screen.![]()
Just please stop bitching about "Microscopic" GUI's until you join the 21st century.........
And what may be functional to YOU may NOT be functional to somebody with bad eyesight.
Pretty simple.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
For me personally the problem is that the bigger the monitor, the smaller the GUI. What I can still read on a 17" notebook display, becomes basically useless on a desktop with 24" screen.
I think many of the small GUI's were developed by young programmers using notebooks.
I think many of the small GUI's were developed by young programmers using notebooks.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35445 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
The size of the monitor is only one factor. The resolution of the monitor is an equally important factor. As is the distance of the monitor from your eye.fluffy_little_something wrote:For me personally the problem is that the bigger the monitor, the smaller the GUI.
The onscreen size of a UI is dependent on the ratio of the screen's resolution to its dimensions; dots per inch.
If you use a bigger monitor, with the same resolution the GUI will not be smaller, it will be the same physical size.
If you use a bigger monitor, with a lower resolution the GUI will be physically larger.
And of course, if you're going to talk about perceived size rather than the actual dimensions as displayed onscreen, desktop screens are typically further away than laptop screens, so UIs will appear smaller when they're not
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Back in 2015 at KVR i posted my own skin available in two sizes: 1512x801 and 1200x636 pixels
Both are available at the "Banks & Patches" page for Poly-Ana here at KVR:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/poly-an ... /downloads
I just installed the bigger version as described there and it seems to work properly here in Windows 10 64-bit.
The skin uses my own design (also for the knobs) and arangement of the controls. It is called "Flatland" as it is a 2D skin without 3D effects.
There was a lot of trouble and/or bashing in that old thread where people including me posted and discussed their skins and finally it was closed (actually there semed to be more than one that was closed). Later it was forbidden to discuss Poly-Ana further at KVR (as was mentioend earlier here).
I really do not want to be involved in such discussions and/or bashing again. Either you want to try and/or use my skin or not. Really doesn't matter for me. Personally i still prefer using my own skin when using Poly-Ana.
It is more likely that this was my last post on this topic for a while...
Both are available at the "Banks & Patches" page for Poly-Ana here at KVR:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/poly-an ... /downloads
I just installed the bigger version as described there and it seems to work properly here in Windows 10 64-bit.
The skin uses my own design (also for the knobs) and arangement of the controls. It is called "Flatland" as it is a 2D skin without 3D effects.
There was a lot of trouble and/or bashing in that old thread where people including me posted and discussed their skins and finally it was closed (actually there semed to be more than one that was closed). Later it was forbidden to discuss Poly-Ana further at KVR (as was mentioend earlier here).
I really do not want to be involved in such discussions and/or bashing again. Either you want to try and/or use my skin or not. Really doesn't matter for me. Personally i still prefer using my own skin when using Poly-Ana.
It is more likely that this was my last post on this topic for a while...
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- KVRAF
- 22961 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
I just downloaded this and am willing to give it a try but I have absolutely no idea how to change the skins for this thing. I don't see any menu option on the synth that says load skin or anything like that.Ingonator wrote:Back in 2015 at KVR i posted my own skin available in two sizes: 1512x801 and 1200x636 pixels
Both are available at the "Banks & Patches" page for Poly-Ana here at KVR:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/poly-an ... /downloads
I just installed the bigger version as described there and it seems to work properly here in Windows 10 64-bit.
The skin uses my own design (also for the knobs) and arangement of the controls. It is called "Flatland" as it is a 2D skin without 3D effects.
There was a lot of trouble and/or bashing in that old thread where people including me posted and discussed their skins and finally it was closed (actually there semed to be more than one that was closed). Later it was forbidden to discuss Poly-Ana further at KVR (as was mentioend earlier here).
I really do not want to be involved in such discussions and/or bashing again. Either you want to try and/or use my skin or not. Really doesn't matter for me. Personally i still prefer using my own skin when using Poly-Ana.
It is more likely tat this was my last post on this topic for a while...
So how exactly do I change it to this skin?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Valid points there. Be that as it may, I have had several monitors over the years, they were always located at the same spot. I definitely noticed that the same old programs I have been using for like a decade have become smaller and smaller. I can't really mess around with the resolution a lot because using inferior resolutions leads to inferior image quality, which undoes any improvements due to mere size. With many resolutions a circle is not even a circle anymorewhyterabbyt wrote:The size of the monitor is only one factor. The resolution of the monitor is an equally important factor. As is the distance of the monitor from your eye.fluffy_little_something wrote:For me personally the problem is that the bigger the monitor, the smaller the GUI.
The onscreen size of a UI is dependent on the ratio of the screen's resolution to its dimensions; dots per inch.
If you use a bigger monitor, with the same resolution the GUI will not be smaller, it will be the same physical size.
If you use a bigger monitor, with a lower resolution the GUI will be physically larger.
And of course, if you're going to talk about perceived size rather than the actual dimensions as displayed onscreen, desktop screens are typically further away than laptop screens, so UIs will appear smaller when they're not
Nor is it very practical to switch between resolutions all the time because some user interfaces are much bigger than others. Ideally they would all work like Sylenth1's
Anyway, in the case of PA, it is not only about size, but the whole default GUI is not ideal, there is something off-putting about it in my view. The exact opposite of Sylenth1, whose GUI invites me to use it.
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