What's Not To Like About The Beatles?
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
back in the day (because I am that old) I was not a big fan of the Beatles (ever notice the name is almost "beat less" which is of course not true). I remember them on Ed Sullivan, I knew all the songs but when xmas came around they were not on my santa list.
I was however on the dark side as it were then, I was a huge stones fan up until Mick Taylor left and Ron Wood stepped in. I was very heavily influenced as a guitar player by Mick Taylor and I knew people who were just as influenced by George Harrison and John Lennon so it's just one of those things. Mick Taylor really made me want to be a "lead" guitar player, I think I liked the dynamic as well as the image of the stones over the Beatles. These days that takes nothing from my admiration of the either tbh and many songs by the Beatles do bring back many memories so if anything my appreciation of the Beatles has grown over the years basically from being neutral to discovering many things to truly respect them for.
I was however on the dark side as it were then, I was a huge stones fan up until Mick Taylor left and Ron Wood stepped in. I was very heavily influenced as a guitar player by Mick Taylor and I knew people who were just as influenced by George Harrison and John Lennon so it's just one of those things. Mick Taylor really made me want to be a "lead" guitar player, I think I liked the dynamic as well as the image of the stones over the Beatles. These days that takes nothing from my admiration of the either tbh and many songs by the Beatles do bring back many memories so if anything my appreciation of the Beatles has grown over the years basically from being neutral to discovering many things to truly respect them for.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Hink wrote:back in the day (because I am that old) I was not a big fan of the Beatles (ever notice the name is almost "beat less" which is of course not true). I remember them on Ed Sullivan, I knew all the songs but when xmas came around they were not on my santa list.
I was however on the dark side as it were then, I was a huge stones fan up until Mick Taylor left and Ron Wood stepped in. I was very heavily influenced as a guitar player by Mick Taylor and I knew people who were just as influenced by George Harrison and John Lennon so it's just one of those things. Mick Taylor really made me want to be a "lead" guitar player, I think I liked the dynamic as well as the image of the stones over the Beatles. These days that takes nothing from my admiration of the either tbh and many songs by the Beatles do bring back many memories so if anything my appreciation of the Beatles has grown over the years basically from being neutral to discovering many things to truly respect them for.
Great post.
Strange how it was The Stones versus the Beatles.
I was more of a Beatles fan,but I still love the Stones.
Of course there was always The Beatles versus The Beach Boys idea as well,but I never really subscribed to that myth.More like the genius of Brian Wilson versus the Beatles collective.
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- KVRAF
- 16809 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Well you could see it that way, but, I'm talking about a property of people interested in things in a particular way. I don't use words like "every beatles fan" which would make it universal. I should have used the word "some" in front of Beatles fans, of course.dellboy wrote:Errr...ghettosynth wrote:
Be careful with universal statements like that.
I was talking about the weirdness of Beatles fans which seems to transcend generations. I've had a few friends like that, the word tiresome comes to mind.
I think you have just contradicted your rule about universal statements.
I'm not sure what the property is, it's something like a pseudo-intellectual variant on being a trekkie.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
You are still wrong in your premise.ghettosynth wrote:I don't use words like "every beatles fan" which would make it universal.
I am a Beatles fan.
I am also a fan of a huge number of other artists and genres.
You seem to be making a generalisation about a rare Beatles fan who is a Beatles fan exclusive to all others.
We are agreed that such a person would be tiresome.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Enough. You're never funny. Never.Aloysius wrote:Milli Vanilli. The original innovators.dellboy wrote:
Hey, guess what ?
If you were there at the time,you would have said the same thing back then.
Not everyone loved the Beatles at the time.
In fact,many thought they were naff back then.
Of course they were wrong then as well.
So if you were a teenager back then what would have been your genre ?
whatever it was,I guess it would have been a bit weird.
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- KVRAF
- 16809 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Actually...jancivil wrote:^irony definedghettosynth wrote:the word tiresome comes to mind.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I have one Facebook friend, a really smart woman, really witty woman whom I've never tired of as verbose as she may gets.
She is a Beatles fanatic. Beatles, the beginning and the end.
I do not seek out Beatles music today really, as I've said.
But, she's right as usual. That enthusiasm comes from the right place in the heart. Besides which, they managed to form a good band. The way the bass and drums on Abbey Road work together, a lot of us should just learn from it.
But oh no, let's float above the real into... what is that?
Say "pseudo-intellectual", yeah, that's the ticket
She is a Beatles fanatic. Beatles, the beginning and the end.
I do not seek out Beatles music today really, as I've said.
But, she's right as usual. That enthusiasm comes from the right place in the heart. Besides which, they managed to form a good band. The way the bass and drums on Abbey Road work together, a lot of us should just learn from it.
But oh no, let's float above the real into... what is that?
Say "pseudo-intellectual", yeah, that's the ticket
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Yeah? I hope so. That's exactly like this rightwing racist just calling me MORON.ghettosynth wrote:Actually...jancivil wrote:^irony definedghettosynth wrote:the word tiresome comes to mind.
Block me.
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- KVRAF
- 3506 posts since 12 May, 2011
In '65, at one point, it was The Beatles vs The Dave Clark Five!dellboy wrote:Hink wrote:back in the day (because I am that old) I was not a big fan of the Beatles (ever notice the name is almost "beat less" which is of course not true). I remember them on Ed Sullivan, I knew all the songs but when xmas came around they were not on my santa list.
I was however on the dark side as it were then, I was a huge stones fan up until Mick Taylor left and Ron Wood stepped in. I was very heavily influenced as a guitar player by Mick Taylor and I knew people who were just as influenced by George Harrison and John Lennon so it's just one of those things. Mick Taylor really made me want to be a "lead" guitar player, I think I liked the dynamic as well as the image of the stones over the Beatles. These days that takes nothing from my admiration of the either tbh and many songs by the Beatles do bring back many memories so if anything my appreciation of the Beatles has grown over the years basically from being neutral to discovering many things to truly respect them for.
Great post.
Strange how it was The Stones versus the Beatles.
I was more of a Beatles fan,but I still love the Stones.
Of course there was always The Beatles versus The Beach Boys idea as well,but I never really subscribed to that myth.More like the genius of Brian Wilson versus the Beatles collective.
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- KVRAF
- 16809 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Not really...jancivil wrote:Yeah? I hope so. That's exactly like this rightwing racist just calling me MORON.ghettosynth wrote:Actually...jancivil wrote:^irony definedghettosynth wrote:the word tiresome comes to mind.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Yeah, the Dave Clark Five were really big around that time.Googly Smythe wrote: In '65, at one point, it was The Beatles vs The Dave Clark Five!
My gear lust started back there with them and Mike Smiths Vox Continental Transistor Organ.