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As much as I enjoy psy it's easily one of the most formulaic genres heavily steeped in dogma. That's why I have a predisposition for the Suomisaundi stuff. Those guys clearly don't give a shit.


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Saiko! I remember that :D RIP Argu, I used his Psycle software for years when I was starting out...

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Trying to get close to the modern proggy basslines (Egorythmia, E-Clip, Daniel Lesden etc)

What do you think of this one?

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/p ... sline-test

Also there are some synths for context but the main focus is on the kbbb.
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Maybe this can be of some use to this thread :)



Some progressive stuff with a lot of psy sounds using rapid :D
100 High Quality Soundsets: Omnisphere 2, Dune 3, Tone 2 Synths, Pigments, Uhe Synths, Halion, Spire, and others.

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recursive one wrote:Trying to get close to the modern proggy basslines (Egorythmia, E-Clip, Daniel Lesden etc)

What do you think of this one?

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/p ... sline-test

Also there are some synths for context but the main focus is on the kbbb.
Apart from the kick, it sounds awesome! :tu:

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Thanks! :)

What's wrong with the kick? (too sharp/clicky maybe?)
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recursive one wrote:Thanks! :)

What's wrong with the kick? (too sharp/clicky maybe?)
no, It's just a personal thing.... I don't really care for 'analog' (synthesized) type kicks... you know, where you can hear the pitch envelope... but I understand they are used quite often in psy! Other than that though, I really like it. Nice job! :tu:

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I see. Indeed, kicks of this kind are quite common in psy now.

Thanks, glad that you like it. I think I'll make a full-length track out of it.
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That's a nice track recursive :)
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Here is a goa piece on working on at the moment. I posted it earlier in the rapid thread but I made a few changes. I'll probably redo the track from scratch in studio one and completely redo the drums and stretch it out to just under 8 minutes :)

https://soundcloud.com/touch-the-univer ... ndset-demo
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recursive one wrote:Trying to get close to the modern proggy basslines (Egorythmia, E-Clip, Daniel Lesden etc)

What do you think of this one?

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/p ... sline-test

Also there are some synths for context but the main focus is on the kbbb.
E-Clip uses Trillian for his basslines with pretty much the default settings - and a bit of EQ and some very subtle multiband expansion on the highs. Or he certainly used to! I think Daniel Lesden uses Sylenth.

Modern prog basslines tend to be pretty fat so just get the biggest sound you can out of the synth and you'll be 90% there :D

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Touch The Universe wrote:Maybe this can be of some use to this thread :)



Some progressive stuff with a lot of psy sounds using rapid :D
Very impressive sounds coming out of Rapid! Jumping right out the speakers at me! May have to demo that one :tu:

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andymcbain wrote:
recursive one wrote:Trying to get close to the modern proggy basslines (Egorythmia, E-Clip, Daniel Lesden etc)

What do you think of this one?

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/p ... sline-test

Also there are some synths for context but the main focus is on the kbbb.
E-Clip uses Trillian for his basslines with pretty much the default settings - and a bit of EQ and some very subtle multiband expansion on the highs. Or he certainly used to! I think Daniel Lesden uses Sylenth.

Modern prog basslines tend to be pretty fat so just get the biggest sound you can out of the synth and you'll be 90% there :D
I know that the Serbian guys love Trillian but I don't have it. I believe getting good bass is more about the right setting on a bass synth and right equalisation rather than using a specific plugin (ofc, some synths may do this better than the others). I use Sylenth and Spire for bass.

Could you say something about the bassline in that my example?
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recursive one wrote:
andymcbain wrote:
recursive one wrote:Trying to get close to the modern proggy basslines (Egorythmia, E-Clip, Daniel Lesden etc)

What do you think of this one?

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/p ... sline-test

Also there are some synths for context but the main focus is on the kbbb.
E-Clip uses Trillian for his basslines with pretty much the default settings - and a bit of EQ and some very subtle multiband expansion on the highs. Or he certainly used to! I think Daniel Lesden uses Sylenth.

Modern prog basslines tend to be pretty fat so just get the biggest sound you can out of the synth and you'll be 90% there :D
I know that the Serbian guys love Trillian but I don't have it. I believe getting good bass is more about the right setting on a bass synth and right equalisation rather than using a specific plugin (ofc, some synths may do this better than the others). I use Sylenth and Spire for bass.

Could you say something about the bassline in that my example?
If we're talking about the contemporary psy bass sound - some synths definitely do it better than others - I've tried quite a few :) I agree that it's not a case of "you can only use these specific plugins" but I often hear things like "You can use any synth as long as you process it correctly etc etc", which I'm not so sure about. While I might get something useable out of my Virus it's going to sound worlds apart from what comes out of Sylenth... but anyway!

Your bass is sounding fine to me here - though I think the whole thing would benefit from a more solid, modern sounding kick if you want to achieve that Serbian Prog sound. Your kick isn't bad but it reminds me more of Goa or older full-on. You might want to consider changing the "rolling" rhythm to more of a straight "gallop" too - possibly by lowering the volume of the first bass note. Up to you, though :)

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(One thing I've noticed is the track really seems to "glue together" when you have the right kick :))

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