Minimoog Softsynth Shootout: Diva MiniV3 Monark Legend Minimonsta vs Model D
- u-he
- 30175 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I think what I'd rather do in that respect is what Dave Spiers of GMedia did: Make videos that show what the synths are like. Give them a proper impression of what a certain synth is about. Then they can see for themselves whether or not the software succeeds in that way.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:That said, the argument in favor of you doing an A/B video would be simple: I have no doubt that you're way more knowledgeable on these synths than your users.
(Yep, those videos exist - but unfortunately, many of similar videos on Youtube are done with a lot of post processing. That again raises expectations to what it seemingly should sound like, which the software of course can't do without extra post processing)
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- KVRian
- 977 posts since 12 Jan, 2013 from Foolish Shepherd
Why u called it Diva?Urs wrote:I think what I'd rather do in that respect is what Dave Spiers of GMedia did: Make videos that show what the synths are like. Give them a proper impression of what a certain synth is about. Then they can see for themselves whether or not the software succeeds in that way.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:That said, the argument in favor of you doing an A/B video would be simple: I have no doubt that you're way more knowledgeable on these synths than your users.
(Yep, those videos exist - but unfortunately, many of similar videos on Youtube are done with a lot of post processing. That again raises expectations to what it seemingly should sound like, which the software of course can't do without extra post processing)
Will u change the name to something more inspire?
I can't see my self next to this name and get inspiration.
I would like to see changes.
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- KVRAF
- 2108 posts since 31 Dec, 2002 from London, UK
I think you want this one for drums https://www.pluginguru.com/products/sup ... -drumz-k5/egbert101 wrote:I think he should change it to Diva 2, that would be inspiring.michaelbrac wrote: Why u called it Diva?
Will u change the name to something more inspire?
I can't see my self next to this name and get inspiration.
I would like to see changes.![]()
along with something like Gladiator from Tone 2. Then surely you'll be inspired
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Don't turn the Diva into a Primadonna.michaelbrac wrote:Why u called it Diva?Urs wrote:I think what I'd rather do in that respect is what Dave Spiers of GMedia did: Make videos that show what the synths are like. Give them a proper impression of what a certain synth is about. Then they can see for themselves whether or not the software succeeds in that way.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:That said, the argument in favor of you doing an A/B video would be simple: I have no doubt that you're way more knowledgeable on these synths than your users.
(Yep, those videos exist - but unfortunately, many of similar videos on Youtube are done with a lot of post processing. That again raises expectations to what it seemingly should sound like, which the software of course can't do without extra post processing)
Will u change the name to something more inspire?
I can't see my self next to this name and get inspiration.
I would like to see changes.![]()
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
DIVA - Dinosaur Impersonating Virtual Analogue Synthesizermichaelbrac wrote: Why u called it Diva?
Will u change the name to something more inspire?
I can't see my self next to this name and get inspiration.
This is found at the beginning of the official website:
https://www.u-he.com/cms/diva
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- KVRian
- 977 posts since 12 Jan, 2013 from Foolish Shepherd
Still doesn't sounds good.Ingonator wrote:DIVA - Dinosaur Impersonating Virtual Analogue Synthesizermichaelbrac wrote: Why u called it Diva?
Will u change the name to something more inspire?
I can't see my self next to this name and get inspiration.
This is found at the beginning of the official website:
https://www.u-he.com/cms/diva
Urs must change the name.
- KVRAF
- 5641 posts since 15 Dec, 2011
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Didn't read to the thread so apologies if this has been mentioned....The video does not compare envelopes at all. How does the sound respond to envelope shaping (especially the 'attack' stage) , for amplitude and filter modualtion in all plugins? This should be one of the main comparison criteria.
- KVRian
- 1311 posts since 31 Dec, 2008
Every one is trying to emulate the king. Yet the king him self can't emulate him selfUrs wrote:Thing is, no 2 Minimoogs will ever be the same, apart maybe from the clones they produce nowadays.chk071 wrote:An emulation will never be 100%.
I'm fairly sure if the guy who made the video had our Minimoog he'd gotten a different picture, probably with all of them sounding too harsh and bright![]()
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Also, the Minimoog I bought last year has an incredibly different sound to the one we had back then. It's like, pretty much all parts behave differently.
(makes me want to do a proper Minimoog clone again, but d'oh... when?)
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- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
This is all this talk is pointless. Funny thing: The vast majority of people discussing these never owned a real analogue, let alone the Minimoog. The only heard recordings and videos of the real thing.S0lo wrote:Every one is trying to emulate the king. Yet the king him self can't emulate him selfUrs wrote:Thing is, no 2 Minimoogs will ever be the same, apart maybe from the clones they produce nowadays.chk071 wrote:An emulation will never be 100%.
I'm fairly sure if the guy who made the video had our Minimoog he'd gotten a different picture, probably with all of them sounding too harsh and bright![]()
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Also, the Minimoog I bought last year has an incredibly different sound to the one we had back then. It's like, pretty much all parts behave differently.
(makes me want to do a proper Minimoog clone again, but d'oh... when?)
Software in its current state of the art mode is already very good, and capable of emulating the hardware with more than 99% accuracy. But the hardware itself sounds different from unit to unit. People who owned and know what analogue is, are aware of this, and don't expect that a software emulation can stand up 100% with EACH hardware unit they are compared too (and this is truer the older the hardware is). Now, program the soft synths you already have properly, and you will certainly have very good, even terrific sounds.
And if you want to beg, beg for something that still doesn't exist, like for example the Korg PS-3300, not "another" Minimoog. It isn't even the best ever synth, far from it. It's only merit resides in the fact that it was the first mass market (kind of...) synthesizer.
Fernando (FMR)
