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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:56 pm

I read this recent posting in the Cakewalk blog:

http://blog.cakewalk.com/bluetooth-midi ... t-for-you/

Is Sonar especially suited for Bluetooth MIDI use, or is it just a promo?

bustedfist · Post by **bustedfist** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:18 pm

Followed the links and from what I gathered it comes down to the OS supporting bluetooth LE. All other devices/OS's require some fashion of USB connection. No Windows before 8 and 10 and no Mac OS before 10.10. Again, bluetooth LE required in the OS.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:33 pm

seems marketing to me. Any DAW will just see a MIDI Port to enable as far as I know. I have a bluetooth dongle on my DAW for controlling external gear like an H9. Works fine. I haven't tried going the other direction though.

vespesian · Post by **vespesian** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:04 pm

Has nothing to do with Sonar (or any DAW, for that matter). Welcome to the world of Cakewalk "soft spin".

bbaggins · Post by **bbaggins** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:06 pm

Has nothing to do with Sonar (or any DAW, for that matter). Welcome to the world of Cakewalk "soft spin".

Not exactly. It's not a case of a feature being instantly available to any DAW because it's in Windows. It's not just an alias for the generic MIDI API; specific code has to be written for the DAW to support UWP. AFAIK, SONAR is the only DAW in which it's been implemented. One of the advantages of being Windows-specific.

Which is not to say you couldn't have a proprietary interlude to translate MIDI-over-Bluetooth into your platform's native driver. However, built-in Windows support is going to have a performance edge, maybe only a couple of milliseconds but that can be significant when you're talking real-time controllers.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:54 pm

bbaggins wrote:Has nothing to do with Sonar (or any DAW, for that matter). Welcome to the world of Cakewalk "soft spin".

Not exactly. It's not a case of a feature being instantly available to any DAW because it's in Windows. It's not just an alias for the generic MIDI API; specific code has to be written for the DAW to support UWP. AFAIK, SONAR is the only DAW in which it's been implemented. One of the advantages of being Windows-specific.

Which is not to say you couldn't have a proprietary interlude to translate MIDI-over-Bluetooth into your platform's native driver. However, built-in Windows support is going to have a performance edge, maybe only a couple of milliseconds but that can be significant when you're talking real-time controllers.

That's my understanding too. The Windows Anniversary update allowed for compatible Bluetooth devices (so existing Bluetooth over MIDI devices on OSX or iOS will likely require a firmware update). Now that Windows can see these MIDI devices, some additional coding still needs to be done on the host side to support whatever new protocol Microsoft developed for these low latency Bluetooth MIDI devices. So not quite plug and play just yet, but should be over time.

vespesian · Post by **vespesian** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:27 pm

bbaggins wrote:Has nothing to do with Sonar (or any DAW, for that matter). Welcome to the world of Cakewalk "soft spin".

Not exactly. It's not a case of a feature being instantly available to any DAW because it's in Windows. It's not just an alias for the generic MIDI API; specific code has to be written for the DAW to support UWP. AFAIK, SONAR is the only DAW in which it's been implemented. One of the advantages of being Windows-specific.

Which is not to say you couldn't have a proprietary interlude to translate MIDI-over-Bluetooth into your platform's native driver. However, built-in Windows support is going to have a performance edge, maybe only a couple of milliseconds but that can be significant when you're talking real-time controllers.

I stand corrected -

- thanks!

Which DAW is best suited for Bluetooth MIDI ?