Zynaptiq Wormhole announced at NAMM 2017

[Kinh]

Experimenting further with Wormhole, processing a sequence I programmed with one of my industrial Groove Agent kits.

Interesting sounds but couldn't you do most of this with just a diffusion reverb, filter, pitch shifter and a resonator?

[Caine123]

i think what lacks a lot is the reverb, or am i mistaken? i mean it's just 1 reverb, you could disable it and add your reverb and have much more flexibility, so whats left are the other 2 options only, the shifter and warper, so you pay for 2 FX 150 bucks...

[Neon Breath]

It’s a unique plugin, no doubt but I agree that it’s more like a stack of different fx combined together. Doing the same thing for similar results with others plugins is possible I’m pretty sure, but Wormhole combines it all together I guess and all modules (fx) seem to be interacting with each other. The most interesting feature I thing is none of these effects but the Mix-Morph, where you can not just have a plain wet vs dry signal but have the dry signal MORPHED with the wet. That’s pretty cool and unique.

Still demoing though. What happens is that I like it and almost buy it, then I hesitate. Re-try again, like it and almost buy it, but then hesitate again. It’s like that since few days, not a good sign I guess...

[aMUSEd]

Still demoing though. What happens is that I like it and almost buy it, then I hesitate. Re-try again, like it and almost buy it, but then hesitate again. It’s like that since few days, not a good sign I guess...

Me too - but that works to our advantage as if I had bought it straight off I wouldn't have known about the bundle deal or reductions on other sites that have popped up since.

[c_voltage]

Tried demo, well, there is some interesting configurations, with enabled two of three FX's (warp+reveb or shift+reverb) in some faders positions, with morphing related algos in fx blend (something like "spectral sidechain").
As result, difficult to say. Ofcourse all depends to tasks\your taste (your specs), and divided by - already you own grm\soundhack\spectrumworx or not.
For example, Adaptiverb seemed to me as a bit more special thing (or can say - for such price range).
But imo, if would be occur accidentally a some miracle, and wormhole become in many times less cpu hungree (and slightly cheaper), it would be pretty desirable injection into any existing spectral processing.

[Fleer]

For me, not unlike Adaptiverb, it's a source of musical creativity. That's where Zynaptiq excels for me. Sure, these are tools, but much more, as they inspire me to find new musical inroads.

[zynaptiq]

Sadly for me, the trail of the VST3 version keeps crashing cubase 9.0.10 . The most I ever got out of it was about 8 minutes I think, the least less than 1. Will return to evaluating this if they release a stability fix.

Is that on Mac? There was an issue with older CPu types (2,1, mainly) – we have a fix for that. Email us & we'll set you up.

If it's NOT on Mac – then email us too so we can get that foxed ASAP -)

[zynaptiq]

[...] Instabuy in my book, loved the old PiWarp back in the day as I do every frequency shifter

When wormhole was announced, there was mention of an upgrade discount for those who own PiWarp. Couldn't find any reference to that on Zynaptiq's page. Though I will ultimately get this anyway, {sooner the better} has anyone else found that discount?

Email support. We had 15 titles to release so it's possible some cool upgrade options may have simply not have been finished yet.

[zynaptiq]

Can't answer regarding price, though Don't Crack (reseller) has extra $ off for Zynaptic, if you login to their forum and check the special pricing. Other's may be more competitive -- don't know...

None of them seem to be offering the bundle crossgrades though

All dealers can get you any product, though they may not actually be listing everything yet as we released SO much stuff all at the same time. Plus, with the upgrades, they may be special order items (so available on request -> email them) due to the verification of the upgrade eligibility.
Or, email us stating your go-to dealer and I'll have them contact you

[simon.a.billington]

Gimme, gimme, gimme!!

[zynaptiq]

2 questions.

1. how is their support?

2. is this product somewhere cheaper available?

Support has been great for me. I sent Denis at Zynaptic a message yesterday afternoon - he replied within minutes. I'm West coast US - I assume he's Europe. Can't answer regarding price, though Don't Crack (reseller) has extra $ off for Zynaptic, if you login to their forum and check the special pricing. Other's may be more competitive -- don't know...

i sennt 2 mails, 1 about 2 months ago and another one 2 days ago, no replies!

While it may sometimes take a little longer than a day to get back to people regarding support requests – especially when we're at trade shows and there's a new release, we get literally hundreds of emails per day in such peak times ! – we always reply. Some ISPs are really annoying though and block entire other ISP's IP ranges. Comcast is a great example – all of our emails are blocked (anything from 1&1, actually, AFAIK) – and we don't even get a bounce. In those cases, I use my private email that's with a different ISP. We're always eyeing putting up our own servers but are a little too small for that currently. If you PM me your name or email address, I'll forward our replies to your requests from a different email.

[zynaptiq]

Unfortunately automating Warp Depth (which produces very interesting shifting of harmonics) produces clicks which are not CPU related but by design it seems.

It shouldn't do that, actually – it is designed to have some level of lag (we dual buffer it, specifically), but there should not be clicks. Would you mind emailing support with your system specs so we can see whether we can reproduce that?

[ChamomileShark]

hi, I did the thing for a demo - did it Thursday, maybe Friday - I'm assuming Zynaptiq are in catch up mode as the links aren't through yet?

[zynaptiq]

We are very much in catch-up mode, but the trial URLs come automatically. My guess is that the form generated email is blocked at your ISP, or found its way into your SPAM folder. I'll PM you the DL URLs in a minute!

[zynaptiq]

Regarding the various comments about comparisons to other spectral processors, combining multiple other plugins to make similarly complex transforms, and resonators...

Oookay. So. WORMHOLE makes it fast and easy to get very high quality, strongly processed stuff. It also covers the subtle things from a butter-smooth microshift detuning to fifth-shifted reverbs etc. Yes, you can use a bunch of processors to get complex results, but having several of them in one package is a different thing in terms of workflow – a significant speed-up.

Also, if you look at the sonic details of the components, you'll note that each of them is tailored to a level where you will not find many similarly high quality solutions.

WARP doesn't use FFTs (its actually a time-domain processor) so it sounds very defined and there's no "underwaterness" in the treble. The POLES parameter can give you the resonator flavor, however, as it is NOT a delay line with feedback, it smears out a whole lot less, retaining much more definition. Especially in combination with the dry/wet morphing, it can produce really tight results while still doing the maximum resonation.

The pitch and frequency shifters are fully antialiased. The carrier and sideband suppression on the FS is nearly perfect. The pitch shifter uses neither windowed delays/grains, nor a phase vocoder or other FFT based method – thus, the results have a different sonic character, and none of the artifacts typical for those approaches like flamming/timing issues/warbling/pitch-tracker jumps are produced. It does have its own artifacts – we sell applied mathematics, not magic – but in my book they are much more musical in their flavor. Shift range is a wild +- 4 octaves. Again combined with the dry/wet morphing, this range is very, very useful.

The reverb is of the ALLPASS type used in MORPH as well as in the ALLPASS module of ADAPTIVERB. It doesn't have a bunch of controls...but it sounds really good. There's two of those in WORMHOLE, which you can stack. Morphing into just the reverb can go really nuts. Does it replace a fully-featured, dedicated reverb? For some stuff, for me, yeah, maybe it does, but in general that's not the intent. It's a reverb that works really well for the combined FX mangling or soundscaping you do with WORMHOLE. You're free to use ADAPTIVERB and surround it with a pre- and a post-WORMHOLE, obviously That combo is pretty insane – twist stuff with WORMHOLE, grab a drone from that with ADAPTIVERB, then twist that again with another WORMHOLE....do all that twice and morph using MORPH. Ahhh

As an inspiration: while the thing is called WORMHOLE and has "do EXTREME stuff!" written all over it, try it for SIMPLE stuff. Microshift chorusing. Fifth-shifted tails. Widening delays. Morph into the octave. Morph into three octaves down, or into just the reverb. Try noth MORPH modes. You'll find it has a huge bandwidth of possible effects. Personally, I have it in every piece of audio that I make now.