What Exactly Is/Was Your Ultimate Ambition?

[incubus]

nah, I say walk on it and get inspired from the beauty

[Musical Gym]

Heaven

[foosnark]

All-in-all, I have nothing to complain about, I make a decent living, for now, having taken advantage of the opportunities that presented themselves along the way. But in retrospect it appears that I've left alot of my life's progress to chance.

There's nothing wrong with not having a master plan. There's something right about being flexible and going where life leads. (Although getting stuck in a rut is a real possibility and sometimes you have to force yourself onto a different path.)


Anyway. Back in high school I had this ambition/daydream/thing that someday I'd release an album. I'd have a band name, mysterious album art, and kind of weird music that people liked when they gave it a chance.

The part of that which didn't come true is seeing my own albums in a record store. And of course the fanbase is much smaller than I dreamed of. But I'm okay with this because the world is also bigger than I dreamed of.

My ambition now is simply to keep making music, mostly for me. To keep exploring, pushing boundaries, learning, and pleasantly surprising myself. Maybe next year I'll switch from my current mode (make as much music as I can and post it online and move on to the next track) to going more album-ish, and try putting it on Bandcamp instead of giving it away. Or maybe not. The music matters more than selling it.

[hivkorn]

Anyway. Back in high school I had this ambition/daydream/thing that someday I'd release an album. I'd have a band name, mysterious album art, and kind of weird music that people liked when they gave it a chance.
The part of that which didn't come true is seeing my own albums in a record store. And of course the fanbase is much smaller than I dreamed of. But I'm okay with this because the world is also bigger than I dreamed of.

+1

[harryupbabble]

But the thing about buskers and the music that they choose to play is a reaction to what the passerby or people on their way to their jobs or at the end of the working hours or whatever. Busker music is not music that is decided by radio station managers or whatever. It's more direct. The people like what the buskers play and they make donations right there at that moment to show appreciation.

So, if the buskers are playing the music that you made then your music is more "of the people". And if in the first place the music-maker is of "the people" meaning that the music-maker's CD/Mp3 music collection are made up of popular songs and rock bands, and if the music-maker want to be appreciated by the people that listens to similar stuff that the music-maker listens to, then what's wrong with that ambition? Buskers don't have to please Simon Cowell.

[EdSevered]

Load of sh!t removed.

[jancivil]

Well, xoxos, until you write a decent pop song, you are not an authority to call it garbage. I mean how many classical-trained musicians can write pop songs, lyrics and all? Freaks are required to get it done.

You ask this apparently rhetorical question as though you know. How would you? You'd have to engage those people in a conversation first.

Why is someone that can create 'a decent pop song', on which there may be scarce agreement on, a 'freak'?
So you can't write lyrics, is everything you're incapable of simply an amazing feat, because you aren't suited to it? Why, then, is this "trained musician" such a plebe? You aren't making sense.

[jancivil]

But the thing about buskers and the music that they choose to play is a reaction to what the passerby or people on their way to their jobs or at the end of the working hours or whatever. Busker music is not music that is decided by radio station managers or whatever. It's more direct.

No, it is music that can be counted on to be known by most passersby. How did that music come to be such common currency? Was it maybe that massive airplay was decided upon by radio managers or whatever? You aren't making sense.

All you've done (& over such a waste of screen real estate here) is put popularity in music up on a pedestal. Maybe a lot of it deserves to be [massively popular]. Maybe a lot of it does not and might have been shitcanned rather than massively marketed. Maybe music that you lack the curiosity and the musical sense to grok deserves to be more popular. Maybe, instead of dross.

Maybe if decisions as to musical popularity was in reality 'more direct' than the process I've experienced for so long, and along with people given more a chance to hear things that aren't a total rehash of ideas that were beaten to death long ago, the mental hygiene of society would be better than it is.

[Numanoid]

To get lost within myself, my own personal universe

[Aloysius]

Get lost.

[harryupbabble]

Sure it's not a belief that can be scientifically backed up (or maybe it cold be) but I believe that music-making is done by one part of the brain and the lyrics-making is done by another part of the brain. Although, according to articles I have read, the mind seem to utilize the entire brain when handling certain tasks, it seems that when you look at brain scan images there are large areas that light up and it's not all over the place. And so maybe normal persons favours one part or another of the brain but not both. Left-handed, right-handed. Songwriters, the ones who are very good at both music and lyrics... are not normal to me. I am guessing that real good songwriters uses big chunks of both brain hemispheres. Howard Goodal may be good at writing music (or is he?) but chances are he sucks at writing lyrics.

Musicians and lyricists tend to collaborate. Like Elton John and Bernie Taupin. Lots of sheet music indicates "music by so and so" and "lyrics by so and so". I think this is the norm. And what Paul McCartney does is not normal. He is a freak. But how is anybody going to disprove my beliefs?

I am not putting pop music on a pedestal. Maybe I just have to defend it when somebody calls all of it garbage. I'm just for inclusion and not for exclusion. The Beatles are not dirt to me. The music that the buskers play is not garbage to me. But yeah people can call it garbage if they want, it's a free world. Isn't it kind of offensive though to say "stop listening to that garbage"?

About the buskers. There are different radio stations to listen to but to me most of the buskers seem to be listening to classic rock radio or who knows maybe they don't even listen to radio, maybe they just buy CDs, or maybe they have a network and word-of-mouth is how they choose their songs. Where are the rap songs? Where are the experimental stuff that you hear on college radio? Where are the EDM tunes? Where is jazz? Where is classical? In the busking world, nowhere are those, it seems. Also, most buskers tend to choose songs that they can play in the first place, without needing so much gear. I am not out to offend anyone. I am just seeing the busking world that way. Wrongly perhaps.

Okay, get out yer scalpel and dissect away. Set me right. Be convincing, though. I am human. And I need to be corrected. Just like everybody else does. How soon is now? Lalalala la. La.

[Numanoid]

Get lost.

That's only two words

[Aloysius]

[jancivil]

I believe that music-making is done by one part of the brain and the lyrics-making is done by another part of the brain.

Why?

Okay, get out yer scalpel and dissect away. Set me right. Be convincing, though. I am human. And I need to be corrected. Just like everybody else does.

Be truly assured that I just can't remotely care if you're persuaded. Our first encounter was you insisting on a belief, that WA Mozart wrote minuets based in dice-playing. To tell you what a minuet is, a strict formal object, w. definite points what simply have to be met in order to even be a minuet (let alone one of 'Mozart quality') meant absolutely nothing to you. Like this thing, it suited you to go with - to totally stick with - a little story instead_of reflection or study. In fact, I am sure you aren't persuaded by anything critical anyone will pose to you.

It isn't I'm offended, it's just something to waste a small amount of time on as I decide finally there is too much scrolling involved (I mean really, hundreds of things in a pointless list?), too time-consuming while being no fun at all. I assure you I'm not alone in this. You just don't give a shit, why would we?

[jancivil]

a scalpel?

About the buskers. ... to me most of the buskers seem to be listening to classic rock radio or who knows maybe they don't even listen to radio, maybe they just buy CDs, or maybe they have a network and word-of-mouth is how

The point is lost on you, because you evidently care nothing at all for any point that isn't your babble. The songs are known by most of passersby because they were massive radio hits. Period. You wanted this 'busking' to be a model of 'more direct' audience participation, as if free from radio executive manipulation. Nonsense.

Even the classical busker has to do the usual hits everybody knows. Once in a blue moon one supposes somebody does something out there that maybe nobody ever experienced before, that is so fantastic per se that people respond. But that's not what you wanted with that.