I want to write music, but I can not!

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Sorry guys, maybe I'm writing not there, but please read...
I've been trying to write music for about five years now, but I have a problem with this. I'm writing EDM. Experience is five years, and the tracks are crappy... Or rather not tracks, and sketches for 30 seconds. :(
At first: I can not realize the idea from my head, Since there's one thing in the head, and in the sequencer it's completely different...
Secondly: even if I write a small sketch - After a while it will seem disgusting to me... :dog: My drums are shit, bass lines are shit and not like the ones I wanted to synthesize! :x
After all this I have lost all desire to write, since there are thoughts that none of this will come out...
But then I sit down again to write and everything repeats again.
Guys, how can I cope with all this and start working normally? I just can not do without all this. Music is the meaning of my life... :(
I'll attach a few demos, what would you see, how bad everything is... I want to achieve the same sound like Getter, Tisoki, Must Die!... I'm not trying to be like them, I just like it ...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0aNR ... XFpWlptblk (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0aNRDoUs3TFU0ZtWXFpWlptblk)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0aNR ... EltNzNEakk (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0aNRDoUs3TFOEdSOEltNzNEakk)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0aNR ... FBFNHozWkU (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0aNRDoUs3TFTHRvOFBFNHozWkU)

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Note: I have not listened to any of your tracks. Just going by these lines:
I can not realize the idea from my head [...] My drums are shit, bass lines are shit
You need to work on your production skills. First let go of what's in your head, but try to remake an existing track. It's much easier with an example right in front of you. Take a track of which you think it's doable to reproduce, one even a child could make. For example apple - pen - applepen - pineapple - pen - pineapplepen. Or the Macarena. Or whatever you think is too simple.

Lay out the drums. Analyse the patterns and instruments you hear. Put them into your sequencer.
Lay out the bass lines. What notes, what patch? Put them into your sequencer.
Add more tracks, add more effects. Put then into your DAW.
Do that again and again, practice practice. You'll get better eventually...

Once you get better at reproducing from an example, you'll also get better at actually producing what's in your head only. Because you have done that already countless times, so you know what to do to achieve a certain goal.
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BertKoor wrote:Note: I have not listened to any of your tracks. Just going by these lines:
I can not realize the idea from my head [...] My drums are shit, bass lines are shit
You need to work on your production skills. First let go of what's in your head, but try to remake an existing track. It's much easier with an example right in front of you.
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Once you get better at reproducing from an example, you'll also get better at actually producing what's in your head only. Because you have done that already countless times, so you know what to do to achieve a certain goal.
This. Keep it really simple to start with. If you cannot get down into the sequencer what your senses tell you someone else is doing, you know where you need to work. Take it one small step at a time. Learn to listen. http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9&t=482836 (the first video, at least).

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At the most basic level, this isn't something other people can really help you with. You can either keep going, or stop. Maybe you need to take a break and come back to it after a little while and see if your thoughts have changed.

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EnemyFox wrote:Secondly: even if I write a small sketch - After a while it will seem disgusting to me... :dog: My drums are shit, bass lines are shit and not like the ones I wanted to synthesize! :x
You have a DAW don't you ? It has synths and effects and lots of ways of changing rhythms, notes and sounds ? So change things about until they sound better.

It sounds like you're looking for perfection and if you don't get it first time you just give up. That's never going to work.

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Time to look for something else?
I never make mistakes; I just blame others.

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Can you play any instruments?

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thecontrolcentre wrote:Can you play any instruments?
...or have an idea about music theory altogether?

It's not difficult to copy-paste groove from some tutorial just to get going.
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maybe music production isn't for you :)

excuse a rather uncommon perspective, but i think many people make a mistake when they think music is something to do recreationally.

music serves an objective function in society. however, it's a function that most citizens are not capable of admitting.

if the music they enjoy is discerned to only be there to channel their attention and envaluation, instead of "because this feels really great!" then their experience and appreciation would be different.

it's like sex. if you analyse it to a point where you truly connect with the causality, then it may become impossible to enjoy... at least, at the same level a bunch of brainwashed oversexed fiend dupes seem to appreciate it at who are shopped sexuality to keep them malleable and doing superfluous activities.

if you produce music because you have a very solid intent you connect to, eg. to impart ideas, or eg. control/influence your audience, then the elements and techniques you use are either sufficient or insufficient.

if otoh, you produce music to aesthetically approximate someone else's entrainment, it may be harder to exactly recreate some of the "push-pull" of having someone in your ear enticing you when you do it yourself.. if you see what i mean.

i think ultimately, many people practice production in this culture with the sole result of regaining some sovereignty over their sensibilities, to repossess their reactions and appreciation. when you learn to do god's tricks, they don't feel the same.

but if you really want to do it, do persevere! some times there are obstacles to overcome, it's a personal journey. it took me years to be able to produce an engaging melody and harmony, *then* it took me years to learn how to *stop* doing this as my mind was constantly composing like the sorceror's apprentice.

one technique that may or may not benefit you, stop listening to other people's work for a while, and just listen to the birds and your own creation. after a while you are more likely to judge your work differently, which may allow some of it to stick around long enough to build on. i remember, my first tunes, i would change a note for hours, because each sequence had to be exactly right. not a matter of self confidence as being too self judgemental, for the most part. the other part is, simply, time, experience, developing skill :)

one thing for sure - don't tell yourself "i can't" - you can even change it to "i haven't yet" but don't form your words to put a roadblock in front of you unless you're intending to drive through it.
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You know -as a perfectionist- you are on to something if you want to have sex but end up opening your DAW. Just sayin'.
I never make mistakes; I just blame others.

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thecontrolcentre wrote:Can you play any instruments?
Oh yes, I graduated from music school ... I can play the piano and accordion. :)

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xoxos wrote:maybe music production isn't for you :)

excuse a rather uncommon perspective, but i think many people make a mistake when they think music is something to do recreationally.

music serves an objective function in society. however, it's a function that most citizens are not capable of admitting.

if the music they enjoy is discerned to only be there to channel their attention and envaluation, instead of "because this feels really great!" then their experience and appreciation would be different.

it's like sex. if you analyse it to a point where you truly connect with the causality, then it may become impossible to enjoy... at least, at the same level a bunch of brainwashed oversexed fiend dupes seem to appreciate it at who are shopped sexuality to keep them malleable and doing superfluous activities.

if you produce music because you have a very solid intent you connect to, eg. to impart ideas, or eg. control/influence your audience, then the elements and techniques you use are either sufficient or insufficient.

if otoh, you produce music to aesthetically approximate someone else's entrainment, it may be harder to exactly recreate some of the "push-pull" of having someone in your ear enticing you when you do it yourself.. if you see what i mean.

i think ultimately, many people practice production in this culture with the sole result of regaining some sovereignty over their sensibilities, to repossess their reactions and appreciation. when you learn to do god's tricks, they don't feel the same.

but if you really want to do it, do persevere! some times there are obstacles to overcome, it's a personal journey. it took me years to be able to produce an engaging melody and harmony, *then* it took me years to learn how to *stop* doing this as my mind was constantly composing like the sorceror's apprentice.

one technique that may or may not benefit you, stop listening to other people's work for a while, and just listen to the birds and your own creation. after a while you are more likely to judge your work differently, which may allow some of it to stick around long enough to build on. i remember, my first tunes, i would change a note for hours, because each sequence had to be exactly right. not a matter of self confidence as being too self judgemental, for the most part. the other part is, simply, time, experience, developing skill :)

one thing for sure - don't tell yourself "i can't" - you can even change it to "i haven't yet" but don't form your words to put a roadblock in front of you unless you're intending to drive through it.
You reason as a psychologist. it's great! :) I think, for a start, I need to understand myself...

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You say you write EDM , do you write EDM or do you want to write EDM ?
Do you have learn to play an instrument before ?

I'm not talking for everybody , but only for myself .
It could take a lot of time to be in phase with what you feel and what you write , it took me 10 year , but i can imagine it could never came.

There's a lot of things people (from my point of view) don't understand , they think they will be a SUPER MEGA HOT PRODUCER if they have the X plugins or the Y...(the same for hardware) , but in the end it is only what you do with this plugin (hardware) who matters , this is your inspiration , your idea.

Every song are a feeling , who know your feeling bether than you ?

Don't be trapped into EDM or every music genre , it is only silence modulation or distortion .

No one will be able to help to wrote better.You can watch or paid for every tutorial it is bullsh*t !

You can't buy inspiration, but you can pet it , learn from it or let it go.

Do you make music to became famous or because you can build something that don't already exists ?

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You can't write music, I can't write lyrics. Let's get together and make pop music. :lol:
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EnemyFox wrote:I can play the piano and accordion. :)
Maybe your issue is that you just shouldn't be trying to make edm :shrug:

Rather than forcing yourself into a genre that you clearly feel is not working out for you, perhaps try to play to your strengths

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