That's the best way.ontol wrote:I had a complete 120,000 word essay that would have resolved all these issues forever, but some people just like arguing, so I ate it.
With cheap wine on ice.
Is your music better or worse than this?
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- KVRAF
- 3980 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
A well-behaved signature.
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- Banned
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No they don't!ontol wrote:I had a complete 120,000 word essay that would have resolved all these issues forever, but some people just like arguing, so I ate it.
With cheap wine on ice.
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- KVRAF
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- 15516 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
That's utterly horrible. I wish people wouldn't breed to serve their own selfish wants.ghettosynth wrote:Their father took them out of school, harassed and abused them to force them to “make music,” hoping to hit it rich off that new rock and roll fad.
As for the music... I couldn't get past the first song's first 35 seconds. It's like listening to four audio tracks from similar but different songs.
The comment you made in your next post about so much effort being required to listen to one track being like listening to an entire album... That was hilarious
EDIT: I'm pretty sure my music is better, but I can't perform (but for vocals), so myself as a whole live band would probably be worse. Then again, from what I said above, maybe they didn't perform live either...
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my music @ SoundCloud
my music @ SoundCloud
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from betwixt
OH hell, my "music" is far worse. Even though musical taste is an entirely subjective thing and "better" and "worse" on this issue are personal value judgements (opinions)...
I mean since we have to do everything for free since 1998 or so, including writing, performing, recording, mixing, mastering, distribution, marketing, and we should be happy about it too, don't anybody bitch at me for posting this, which I think might be the most horrible recording of noise ever committed to any medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDd1Kpcod3c
I mean since we have to do everything for free since 1998 or so, including writing, performing, recording, mixing, mastering, distribution, marketing, and we should be happy about it too, don't anybody bitch at me for posting this, which I think might be the most horrible recording of noise ever committed to any medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDd1Kpcod3c
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- KVRAF
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Yeah, I'm liking that. Interestingly, I found the Zappa video above more listenable than most of his work. I think that there must be some effort there, either subconscious or conscious, I don't know, to influence the sound in the process of trying to "make as much noise as possible" and it yields moments of interesting textures.Codestation wrote:OH hell, my "music" is far worse. Even though musical taste is an entirely subjective thing and "better" and "worse" on this issue are personal value judgements (opinions)...
I mean since we have to do everything for free since 1998 or so, including writing, performing, recording, mixing, mastering, distribution, marketing, and we should be happy about it too, don't anybody bitch at me for posting this, which I think might be the most horrible recording of noise ever committed to any medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDd1Kpcod3c
I really like what the explosion of high quality synth software and hardware has done for the ambient and noise scene though.
Even within that scene, however, there is arguably, objectively bad, "music." I mean, we all put quotes around music in a self-deprecating somewhat narcissistic manner because, in truth, we all think of experimental music as music. However, I think that we can judge, at least the music of others, based on an intent to achieve a sound and how well they achieve that sound.
There's more than that, but I don't want to write a book, and frankly, I started this thread to hear the thoughts of others.
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Weasels (title track) is probably everybody in the band going crazy but then something quite inadvisable was done before the master bus on the mixer. I feel certain a lot of that is attributable to (the late) Jim Sherwood and Bunk Gardner on saxes. The avant-garde side of that band goes back to FZ having guys (Gardner, Don Preston et al) come over and improvise freely to, like biology films he copped somewhere.
check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MewcnFl_6Y
check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MewcnFl_6Y
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from betwixt
Agreed!ghettosynth wrote: I think that we can judge, at least the music of others, based on an intent to achieve a sound and how well they achieve that sound.
If I had claimed my noise was a 12-bar blues it would be objectively measurable that I had failed
Zappa... MORE ZAPPA DAMMIT!
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
it's actually very lovely. I plan to dwell more in it later this eve.Codestation wrote:[...] for posting this, which I think might be the most horrible recording of noise ever committed to any medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDd1Kpcod3c
nice reverse psyche trick to encourage clicking, very Zappa MOI-era marketing move (we so ugly).
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 18 Aug, 2004
Thank you ghettosynth for reviving this thread with such wondrous finds. The bowels of Youtube doth salute you mightily sir.
Just make the music that you enjoy (failing that go for a walk, watch some porn, have a fight with a random bloke until something else happens).
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