Old school audio processor program

[bungle]

Xenakios has already started porting CDP in to a plugin for Reaper too, makes CDP a whole lot easier to use.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I had never heard of Cecilia before, but I'm gonna look into it.
It's kind-of crazy thinking back on how I used to get sounds versus now.

This is a BT vid I came across googling Cecilia

Cecilia is great. First heard about it from one of my favourite artists - brian Trifon (Trifonic)

He mentions it within this presentation, which is well a watch, if only as an antidote to the current trend of production quantity as opposed to production quality

https://www.pyramind.com/training/blog/ ... ideo-recap

[cron]

FScape is another offline processor that started development around 2000.

Can you remember anything else about this program? Windows, Mac, both? Any of the processes you could actually do with it, especially more unusual/rare ones? I'm sure we'll stumble on to it eventually if we keep guessing!

[efficace]

I'm positive now that it was CDP, and some front end program. I'm gonna dive into Cecilia, soundshaper, or hourglass. Thanks all!

[annode]

Thanks very much cron for all your enlightenment with CDP.
I read and listened and considering the workflow, I'm going to back away from this.
I found the processed results to be of no use for me...shame, I do like stuff like Max.
I like to work with tonality. This was more textural I think.
Thanks again cron.

[cron]

No problem!

It's not at all for everyone. Your usage of Max suggests to me that you're interested in the possibilities of real-time/reactive processing first and foremost, while CDP is pretty much the opposite of that. It's only really suited to extremely audio-heavy workflows.

I moved to a 100% audio workflow (other than pure mix processing like compression and EQ) in around 2005 because it was the only way I could get tracks finished! I'm such a tweaker. Every synth sound and effects flourish got rendered out (either from MIDI or real-time tweaking) before it was tried in the mix, and whereas I'd formerly spend forever tweaking those sounds, sounds I'd only considered "80% there" in the past would often seem perfect in context. Rendering and re-rendering is no fun, so it just helped me balance my time a lot better and added some much needed discipline to my workflow. Kept me focused on the composition and arrangement as a whole when all the audio is there waiting to be moved around and tried in different permutations, while it also opened my eyes to a lot of editing tricks that are only really practical when dealing with audio.

I discovered CDP in 2005 from a demo that came with a computer music book, and shelled out to the full thing in around 2006. As such, it came about at exactly the right time and my love of working non-real-time was solidified.

I've a more relaxed hybrid approach now, especially as I'm making more 'synthy' music where being able to quickly change/record MIDI is a must, but still a mostly non-real-time guy and CDP remains the most important sound design tool in my box.

[annode]

Your usage of Max suggests to me that you're interested in the possibilities of real-time/reactive processing first and foremost, while CDP is pretty much the opposite of that. It's only really suited to extremely audio-heavy workflows.

I can see how me saying Max could cause you to think that. I actually wanted to convey, by saying Max, that I am no stranger to old school IRCAM and the days of CSound...strictly as a listener not programmer. I also should have said Max/Msp Cycling`74 in respect to my use of Pluggo.
Also real time plugins, many in the realm of what used to be possible off-line only, but I have no problem working off-line, so to speak. I like experimental sound and music.
I just didn't hear, in those audio examples you posted, any sound I might want to get involved with. Not to mention the time it would take to learn and produce! How that is worth it I can't imagine.

If you could show me other different sound examples of CDP, I might reconsider it. Thanks again.