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recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon May 08, 2017 9:18 am

An attempt at oldschool goa, sorta Astral Projection style. The mixing is somehow rough atm.

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/goa-demo/s-eoI5f

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Wed May 10, 2017 8:37 pm

GNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Almost had a boner at 0:53

Epic last "drop".

Bit trancy or proggy IMO to be "proper" goa but excellent song

Made my legs go "thump thump thump thump". What did you put in that?

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu May 11, 2017 8:36 pm

Thanks, mate!

Yeah, I do listen to some goa, but mostly the cheesiest kind of it, like Yahel and Astral projection, and my output is of the same kind.

Synths used: mostly Lush 101, Tal bassline 101, Rapid and Serum, the arp playing in the first section is Sylenth, mutated arp303 saw lol.

Omnivox · Post by **Omnivox** » Thu May 11, 2017 9:39 pm

It is so nice to see a psy and goa trance thread here.
So, let me just put my latest one here

https://soundcloud.com/musicbyomnivox/spatial-encoder

Taika-Kim · Post by **Taika-Kim** » Fri May 12, 2017 12:33 am

I'm a bit sad that not so many people do more atmospheric and organic styles these days, except when the music is more chillout... In the end of the 90s for example the stuff that came out of the Butterfly studios like most Dragonfly Records releases had a wonderful, round and earthy sound. But something less than the modern psytrance sound, and more than psydub/whatever, I think there's a lot of space there that's not taken yet.

Here's something a bit older from my latest album just to give perspective to the more modern styles

https://soundcloud.com/aavepyora/no-col ... ght-we-see

Or Bandcamp for much better sound quality: https://aavepyora.bandcamp.com/track/no ... ght-we-see

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Thu May 25, 2017 3:08 pm

Earlier in this thread I had some talk about the phase peak when you highpass your bass from 30hz. Noticed that MEqualizer nicely blurs the peak with saturation knob, without affecting the sound too much. Doesn't entirely roll the peak away but tames it nicely ^^

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu May 25, 2017 3:28 pm

I believe that any equalization in the lower end of the spectrum should be done with a linear phase equalizer, then such peaks should not arise.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Thu May 25, 2017 3:54 pm

Okay so I finally got this one out!

http://www.beatport.com/track/convergen ... ix/9318676

Most certainly it's original creation, I don't have much experience in psy production and don't quite enjoy copy-paste tunes, either.
Mastered myself, though it's all in the mix. Beatport encoding suashed it, anyway.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Thu May 25, 2017 7:21 pm

recursive one wrote:I believe that any equalization in the lower end of the spectrum should be done with a linear phase equalizer, then such peaks should not arise.

Maybe.. Just noticed that ReaFir has linear phase mode. Do I feel myself stupid?

Been giving an eye to Melda linear phase but it's a bit pricy

But yeah, ReaFir works nicely taming the peak but seems like it cuts the balls away from the bassline.

More full sound without the linear mode on.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Fri May 26, 2017 12:56 pm

Having some serious fun with Glitch2

Wonder why I haven't bought this earlier.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Fri May 26, 2017 3:07 pm

Also bought Air Riser (25€) and Fallout4 for 19€.. Next I'll unplug my internetcable to avoid those obvious sales that are coming -_-

Synthman2000 · Post by **Synthman2000** » Mon May 29, 2017 5:32 pm

Synth ID request I think probably best posted elsewhere as I suspect the sound to be more generic that psy alone.

viewtopic.php?f=100&t=485474

emtear · Post by **emtear** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:11 am

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mtr

Terrafractyl · Post by **Terrafractyl** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:31 am

Distorted Horizon wrote:
recursive one wrote:I believe that any equalization in the lower end of the spectrum should be done with a linear phase equalizer, then such peaks should not arise.

Maybe.. Just noticed that ReaFir has linear phase mode. Do I feel myself stupid? Been giving an eye to Melda linear phase but it's a bit pricy

But yeah, ReaFir works nicely taming the peak but seems like it cuts the balls away from the bassline.

More full sound without the linear mode on.

IMO Its not quite as simple as that.
Sure, using linear phase EQ will give you something closer to a symmetrical waveform, giving you a larger possible RMS for your Kick and Bass

......
but it will also add a slight 'ringing' to the sound.

The sharper the transient, the more the ringing that can occur, so Kicks and Snappy bass lines definitely are affected negatively by this.

So there is a bit of a do I want it louder? vs do I want it cleaner? kind of trade off going on.
I quite like the Natural phase mode on Pro Q, as it seems to do a pretty decent job at giving the best of both worlds.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:01 am

Terrafractyl wrote:
Distorted Horizon wrote:
recursive one wrote:I believe that any equalization in the lower end of the spectrum should be done with a linear phase equalizer, then such peaks should not arise.

Maybe.. Just noticed that ReaFir has linear phase mode. Do I feel myself stupid? Been giving an eye to Melda linear phase but it's a bit pricy

But yeah, ReaFir works nicely taming the peak but seems like it cuts the balls away from the bassline.

More full sound without the linear mode on.
IMO Its not quite as simple as that.
Sure, using linear phase EQ will give you something closer to a symmetrical waveform, giving you a larger possible RMS for your Kick and Bass
......
but it will also add a slight 'ringing' to the sound.
The sharper the transient, the more the ringing that can occur, so Kicks and Snappy bass lines definitely are affected negatively by this.

So there is a bit of a do I want it louder? vs do I want it cleaner? kind of trade off going on.
I quite like the Natural phase mode on Pro Q, as it seems to do a pretty decent job at giving the best of both worlds.

Thanks for the insights! I wasn't aware of that, for some reasons I used to think that linear phase eq is always preferable for low end, especially in psybass where the starting phase of the sound is super improtant. Anyway, I'm by no means a bass expert. I use an equalizer from Izotope Ozone on my bass (it is the only linear phase equalizer I have) and this seems to be an improvement over Studio One stock eq.

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