'Circuit' Mode on Phonec is directly Melting the oscillator via direct wiring into the oscillator pitch. That of course cannot be done with an audio effect, because we're not dealing with an oscillator. 'Tape' Mode on Phonec applies Melting to the overall signal, as in the way an effect works. Hope this makes sense.blortblort wrote:I know this may sound a little like looking the gift horse in the mouth, but...
...if it could be said that EchoMelt employs the melt as the tape mode built into Phonec... (ie- approach from an outboard fx perspective...)
Might there be any possibility of future circuit mode employment in EchoMelt? (ie- audio treated as an unstable oscillator...something more akin to circuit bent fx vs physically induced effects from old VHS decks, etc)
just positing the question, really...
the result of a circuit mode on EchoMelt may not be nearly as exciting as the present tape mode melt effect obviously is...
In fact... just doing some comparative playing on Phonec, while I noodle out this idea: the *strength* of the circuit mode is randomization of the oscillator tuning while Phonec is in poly mode...and THAT is something that would not be at play when audio signal itself is the "oscillator" --it would be handled as a monophonic source and would not retrigger a differently tuned/warped oscillator ...unless some sort of transient reading/triggering might be written to do that very thing? I dunno... any of this make sense to anyone?
In any case- Thank YOU, Jack for creating this goodie!
A sure sign of a device's success in my book is if it inspires me and if I manage to somehow lose an hour or two after pulling it into a set... Both of those boxes are surely ticked for EchoMelt!
EchoMelt - by Psychic Modulation (updated to v2.0)
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jack [psychicmodulation] jack [psychicmodulation] https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2588 - KVRAF
- 1566 posts since 24 Apr, 2002 from New Orleans, LA
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jack [psychicmodulation] jack [psychicmodulation] https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2588
- KVRAF
- 1566 posts since 24 Apr, 2002 from New Orleans, LA
Because this is the most effective way to fit 15 controls and a graphical display into a single panel without making it too much bigger than the other panels. The controls are there so you can assign them to MIDI and get more precise settings.fluffy_little_something wrote:Why is the EQ section not designed like the other three sections above?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
No no, I meant merely the design, EQ is not in white letters on black background, the L and S buttons are at the bottom...
The controls as such look nice, the display works very well, like a mini version of my TB Equalizer
Although, maybe an 11-band graphic eq would have been more appropriate for such an old-skool plugin
What I don't find fortunate are the red buttons. It's not really obvious when the Pong (strange short form
) button is on and off.
Does the Melt - Depth knob correspond to Phonec's big Melt knob?
The controls as such look nice, the display works very well, like a mini version of my TB Equalizer
Although, maybe an 11-band graphic eq would have been more appropriate for such an old-skool plugin
What I don't find fortunate are the red buttons. It's not really obvious when the Pong (strange short form
) button is on and off. Does the Melt - Depth knob correspond to Phonec's big Melt knob?
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- KVRian
- 898 posts since 5 Jun, 2001
bought it, sounds great on a track i'm writing right now and it looks great too, cheers
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- KVRAF
- 3191 posts since 20 Sep, 2004 from Atlanta
your explanation totally makes sense... just thought there may be a way of approaching/affecting audio as if it were an oscillator vs audio input (...which IS what it actually IS ;] )jack [psychicmodulation] wrote:'Circuit' Mode on Phonec is directly Melting the oscillator via direct wiring into the oscillator pitch. That of course cannot be done with an audio effect, because we're not dealing with an oscillator. 'Tape' Mode on Phonec applies Melting to the overall signal, as in the way an effect works. Hope this makes sense.blortblort wrote:I know this may sound a little like looking the gift horse in the mouth, but...
...if it could be said that EchoMelt employs the melt as the tape mode built into Phonec... (ie- approach from an outboard fx perspective...)
Might there be any possibility of future circuit mode employment in EchoMelt? (ie- audio treated as an unstable oscillator...something more akin to circuit bent fx vs physically induced effects from old VHS decks, etc)
just positing the question, really...
the result of a circuit mode on EchoMelt may not be nearly as exciting as the present tape mode melt effect obviously is...
In fact... just doing some comparative playing on Phonec, while I noodle out this idea: the *strength* of the circuit mode is randomization of the oscillator tuning while Phonec is in poly mode...and THAT is something that would not be at play when audio signal itself is the "oscillator" --it would be handled as a monophonic source and would not retrigger a differently tuned/warped oscillator ...unless some sort of transient reading/triggering might be written to do that very thing? I dunno... any of this make sense to anyone?
In any case- Thank YOU, Jack for creating this goodie!
A sure sign of a device's success in my book is if it inspires me and if I manage to somehow lose an hour or two after pulling it into a set... Both of those boxes are surely ticked for EchoMelt!
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- KVRAF
- 8071 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Tried it, bought it. I've been using Echobode, Replika, Ubermod, Permut8 and the various Valhalla reverbs quite a bit with my Eurorack stuff and this is in good company with those. 
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839 - KVRAF
- 1914 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
Sorry it's not said on site and in manual.
What kind of authorisation Psychic Modulation is using? Serial?
What kind of authorisation Psychic Modulation is using? Serial?
Murderous duck!
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jack [psychicmodulation] jack [psychicmodulation] https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2588
- KVRAF
- 1566 posts since 24 Apr, 2002 from New Orleans, LA
There's no authorization once you receive the plugin. Enjoy.david.beholder wrote:Sorry it's not said on site and in manual.
What kind of authorisation Psychic Modulation is using? Serial?
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- KVRist
- 248 posts since 1 May, 2006
I want this plugin and tried to buy 2X... but the buying process is really confounding... I'm trying to use PayPal and I get stuck in a loop.
Frustrating... One might chalk it up to user error, but I'm a contemporary web software developer.
Frustrating... One might chalk it up to user error, but I'm a contemporary web software developer.
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- KVRian
- 652 posts since 17 Mar, 2002 from Paris
I tried very hard to resist this plugin.. and failed 
I did get a life,once...but it was faulty, so I sent it back.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
An idea for the echo unit: an optional mode where the feedback control does not fade the signal out, but keeps all repetitions at the original level and then stops repeating completely when the time set is up. This way one could use the feedback knob to set for instance exactly 3 repetitions with increasing pitch.
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jack [psychicmodulation] jack [psychicmodulation] https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2588
- KVRAF
- 1566 posts since 24 Apr, 2002 from New Orleans, LA
Neat idea! This would be really cool on drums. I'll mess around with it and see what happens...fluffy_little_something wrote:An idea for the echo unit: an optional mode where the feedback control does not fade the signal out, but keeps all repetitions at the original level and then stops repeating completely when the time set is up. This way one could use the feedback knob to set for instance exactly 3 repetitions with increasing pitch.
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- KVRist
- 207 posts since 23 Oct, 2005 from Australia
Superb plugin, Psychic Modulation are putting out some great stuff at the moment! It's nice to give a bit of a phonec touch to some of my other synths.
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- KVRAF
- 7574 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
This would require a midi note signal as a gate wouldn't it? Cool idea.fluffy_little_something wrote:An idea for the echo unit: an optional mode where the feedback control does not fade the signal out, but keeps all repetitions at the original level and then stops repeating completely when the time set is up. This way one could use the feedback knob to set for instance exactly 3 repetitions with increasing pitch.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Or an audio threshold to trigger it.camsr wrote:This would require a midi note signal as a gate wouldn't it? Cool idea.fluffy_little_something wrote:An idea for the echo unit: an optional mode where the feedback control does not fade the signal out, but keeps all repetitions at the original level and then stops repeating completely when the time set is up. This way one could use the feedback knob to set for instance exactly 3 repetitions with increasing pitch.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.