KVR Audio

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Thu May 11, 2017 10:07 pm

Just watched the 2nd semi-final of the Eurovision Song Contest.

The audio is really extremely BAD[/b} !!!!!!

It sounds like they pick up the audio from microphones in the hall. Instead of plugging it direct to the air.

They must do this on purpose. Because there are so many people involved in this production. So someone must have noticed. Why on earth do they do this. This is the worst audio from any ESC I've ever heard !

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:29 am

What's your location / TV provider?
It sounded absolutely fine here... (Holland - Ziggo)

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Fri May 12, 2017 8:24 am

BertKoor wrote:What's your location / TV provider?
It sounded absolutely fine here... (Holland - Ziggo)

Sweden. SVT. We have a SmartTV and watc hed SVT'sonline streaming.

You can watch it here: https://www.svtplay.se/eurovision-song-contest

Scroll to when they start performing the songs. The volume is overall low and it sounds as if they pick up the music from microphones in the hall. Really crappy sound here.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Fri May 12, 2017 9:05 am

Original site: http://eurovisionworld.com/?eurovision=songs_videos
Not highest bitrate, but not too bad. Sounds the same, even the volume is the same

It is the "direct" sound, not miked from the PA.
I do hear screaming of the public, but that's what I expect.

ZeePok · Post by **ZeePok** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:03 am

BertKoor wrote:What's your location / TV provider?
It sounded absolutely fine here... (Holland - Ziggo)

I always watch the ESF on the VRT (Een). I find the sound (and the commentary

) much better!

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Sat May 13, 2017 10:02 am

I can't see why different broadscasters would have different quality on the sound. After all they're just forwardning what they get from the production in Kiev.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Sat May 13, 2017 10:57 am

Well, I don't observe a quality difference. I just tried troubleshooting the situation, and it's possible some broadcasters get their audio in a different way, maybe constantly mix in the commentator which goes over a telephone line.

Roman Empire · Post by **Roman Empire** » Sat May 13, 2017 11:20 am

I think it´s a mix of direct PA output and mic from where the audience is, and the audience is mixed a bit higher than the usual which I actually think contributes to a more lively atmosphere.

Best Regards

Roman Empire

ZeePok · Post by **ZeePok** » Sat May 13, 2017 2:21 pm

BertKoor wrote:Well, I don't observe a quality difference. I just tried troubleshooting the situation, and it's possible some broadcasters get their audio in a different way, maybe constantly mix in the commentator which goes over a telephone line.

Oh, there's a world of difference in audio on the various channels. Try zapping between NPO, VRT, BBC and ARD if you're watching tonight and you'll certainly hear it! (Listening with headphones helps

)

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Sun May 14, 2017 10:38 am

BertKoor wrote:Well, I don't observe a quality difference. I just tried troubleshooting the situation, and it's possible some broadcasters get their audio in a different way, maybe constantly mix in the commentator which goes over a telephone line.

Yesterday the sound was better. At least louder. It still sounded a bit like as if it was in a b ox. But better then before.

Some of the songs was difficult o thear properly. Others sounded a bit better. But the overall quality wasn't great. I guess I'll have to blame to Swedish broadcaster for it. It's the same every year. But this ytear it was worse.

In the national competition the sound is always good however. Funny.

Well, I'm glad Portgal won !K And I did like what this guy Salvatore Sobral said about "fast food music" !

ZeePok · Post by **ZeePok** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:25 pm

sfd wrote:
BertKoor wrote:Well, I don't observe a quality difference. I just tried troubleshooting the situation, and it's possible some broadcasters get their audio in a different way, maybe constantly mix in the commentator which goes over a telephone line.
Yesterday the sound was better. At least louder. It still sounded a bit like as if it was in a b ox. But better then before.

Some of the songs was difficult o thear properly. Others sounded a bit better. But the overall quality wasn't great. I guess I'll have to blame to Swedish broadcaster for it. It's the same every year. But this ytear it was worse.

In the national competition the sound is always good however. Funny.

Well, I'm glad Portgal won !K And I did like what this guy Salvatore Sobral said about "fast food music" !

Don't you have a choice of other channels to watch it on (e.g. BBC?)

Totally agree about Portugal, Absolutely the deserved winner!

Was a bit shocked that 'our' performance (the sisters O'G3NE) weren't more rewarded by the voters (with the jury they were nr. 5). A stellar performance of a fantastic song!

But I was glad that Belgium got to fourth place. Very fragile performance but a great song!

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:51 pm

Indeed, we really deserved to be in the top ten, but ended up #11.

Got some theories as of why, but this is how Eurovision Song Festival ought to work.
Australia also deserved much more points from the voters.
Portugal: congrats with winning! Finally...

Spain got what it asked for. I understood there was a far better candidate, totally neglected by the local jury.

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Sun May 14, 2017 6:29 pm

I guess that , very, young Belgian girl was very nervous. Poor girl. **Indeed it was very fragile. She sang very low. At leasxt that was what it sounded like when we watched.

I also very much like that Salvatore Sobral won by singing in porgugeese. While most other contries sing in English nowdays.

He must be treated as a national super hero in Porgutla today !

I'm excited to see what show they'll put up next year. Hopefully something different

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun May 14, 2017 6:32 pm

zxant wrote:Totally agree about Portugal, Absolutely the deserved winner!

+1

I am quite surprised, that is a classic song, will not be dated in 10 years time.

fluffy_little_something · Sun May 14, 2017 7:05 pm

sfd wrote:I guess that , very, young Belgian girl was very nervous. Poor girl. **Indeed it was very fragile. She sang very low. At leasxt that was what it sounded like when we watched.

I also very much like that Salvatore Sobral won by singing in porgugeese. While most other contries sing in English nowdays.

He must be treated as a national super hero in Porgutla today !

I'm excited to see what show they'll put up next year. Hopefully something different

I think only Irish and British entries should be allowed in English, everyone should have to sing in their mother tongue.

I didn't watch it, as usual, but I was surprised to hear Salvador won. He does have an interesting voice, though, almost a woman's voice at times, I have heard him sing nicer songs on the national level, Jazz stuff.
His movements are odd, almost a bit like Joe Cocker

Eurovision Song Contest audio is TERRIBLY bad !