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I remember the good old days, this was when I was in my 'Linux fanatic' phase, and when I was more into gaming than I am now. The Linux zealots would proclaim how games would run faster on Linux etc. Well in my experience 100% of the games I tried under Linux failed to achieve this proud boast, not only failed, but failed miserably. And this is not with games running on Wine or Cedega etc, but games that had native Linux versions, from Dev's such as Id and Epic, not only was the frame rate noticeably lower, but there was always graphical glitches, problems with cut scenes, audio issues and on and on the list goes. Then I realized, that instead of accepting a sub standard experience, I could actually be enjoying the experience fully, without all these drawbacks, without the need to be continually trying to fix things in a vain attempt to get even remotely close to the Windows experience. Thus I came to my senses and returned to Windows vowing never to return.

The year of Linux is always going to be next year, they would always give that cry, "Next year is going to be the year of Linux" , unfortunately next year never comes. I guess if you keep saying it every year as they have for the last 15+ years, you'd have to say that it will eventually come true. Alas in the case of Linux, it's never going to happen, and certainly not while Linux is so fragmented with eleventy 2 gazillion forks and versions, it's a mess, but they say "Linux is about choice" , yeah choice between one inferior product and another . . . well I made my choice, I chose Windows. Linux lacks any serious support from REAL hardware and software developers/manufacturers, most of what the FOSS people develop as in drivers and 'alternate' software is substandard, lacking in features, and just plain behind the game when compared to the commercial stuff available for Windows(there are of course a few exceptions, very few).

Web surfing, Email, text editing etc is fine with Linux, but when you want to do something above and beyond that, something more specialized, well it's just not worth the effort, you get much better performance, a much better experience, much more useful and full feature sets with Windows, and it just works. The zealots will predictably always point to servers to show the superiority of Linux (quite frankly there isn't anything else to point to, but hey . . . don't let that spoil your party) even that has been, and is being whittled away, oh . . . and how much fun are you having with your server ? Yeah I know, we need those servers for all the things we need them for, but still, how much fun are you having with your Linux server? :D Then they will come out with the other predictable point of superiority, virus's, well, it's not that big of a problem, I have had only one virus since the mid 90's, that was in '98, got from a file sent from a friend, caused me no issues, just get rid of it and carry on. My security is practically non existent, and always has been, all my computers are permanently connected to the net, none of my DAW PC's have any AV, Firewalls or any other type of protection, only my 2 laptops that surf the net and download stuff run Avast and that's it, I really don't see the issue, it's mostly about your PC/internet habits, go putting your hands in the fire and your going to get burned. (yeah I know you can point to many instances of virus issues and horror stories with Windows users) , but in my experience, and that is the only experience that matters to me, and the only one I can be sure about, it mostly comes down to your computing habits (there is no cure for stupidity) Plus the user base is to small for any self respecting malcontent to bother writing a virus for Linux :lol:

I could use Linux, but I would be restricting myself, restricting myself to what software and hardware I can use/run, restrict myself of the time I could be actually having fun or being productive, by eternally fixing things and trying to get things to work, or I could use Windows and just enjoy the experience, do what I want, use what I want with the minimum of fuss, enjoy the support of the vast majority of Hardware and Software Developers/Manufacturers . . . I know which one I will choose. (of course there are those who experience issue, etc in Windows, from my experience, like the virus case, that also comes down to how you use it and your habits, that's just my experience) I am enjoying, and have enjoyed a relatively trouble free Windows experience, as has millions of others. As I said before, Winblows isn't perfect by a long shot, but it's a hell of a lot closer than Linsux.

Yeah . . . Win Blows . . . but Lin Sux :tu: :D

[Edit] Oh, and have you heard? Cakewalk is developing a native Linux version of SONAR :D (wonder if it would turn out better than the SONAR4Mac :D :clap: :clap: :clap:






If it were true, which it isn't, makes sense, think about it, Cakewalk/SONAR/Linux, they deserve each other, it would be a match made in heaven :lol:
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Just like most improvements in the standard of living, inovation comes when there's a reward for the contribution in the form of money not acolades(which usually comes with the money).
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When using Linux I always had the wrong hardware. The drivers were proprietary or non existent in which case I always loaded the wrong packages(which in turn created a huge and obnoxious kernal). The only thing I could get working was the browser and create ten different logons.

I didn't give up though and went through 6 full number upgrades of the distro. I finally gave up dual boot and went straight Windows, where everything works plug and play.

Don't miss Linux much....
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Onerous it might be, but I can only guess you don't know what he word lascivious means. If it was lascivious, I would have zero problems installing it right now.

And... Uh yeah "socialistic nerds and outsiders bent on OS domination". Relax man, they're just software hipsters, not the iron curtain. Some people only see politics...

Anyway to the question, NO I will not be using linux. Lol

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ShawnG wrote:Onerous it might be, but I can only guess you don't know what he word lascivious means. If it was lascivious, I would have zero problems installing it right now.

And... Uh yeah "socialistic nerds and outsiders bent on OS domination". Relax man, they're just software hipsters, not the iron curtain. Some people only see politics...

Anyway to the question, NO I will not be using linux. Lol

Yes I do have problems with them 50 cent words...

That statement was absurd for a reason...I think it's called satire at least in my little mind. The provactive way it was posted did get the wrong vibe so I will apologize and edit to prevent further cage rattling.

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LINUX would be an ideal environment for music production efficiency wise, unfor fortunately it's one of the last things that LINUX is designed around doing.. lol.. getting all your DAW work done in LINUX would be like building a ship in a bottle.. maybe in the dark too.. ;P

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Zexila wrote:
sin night wrote:I think there's a big need for an alternative.
Totally agree! :tu:
If there was there would be
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer

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SJ_Digriz wrote:
Zexila wrote:
sin night wrote:I think there's a big need for an alternative.
Totally agree! :tu:
If there was there would be
So we shouldn't have an personal opinion because of that?
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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Zexila wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
Zexila wrote:
sin night wrote:I think there's a big need for an alternative.
Totally agree! :tu:
If there was there would be
So we shouldn't have an personal opinion because of that?
I can't have a counter opinion?
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer

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SJ_Digriz wrote:
Zexila wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
Zexila wrote:
sin night wrote:I think there's a big need for an alternative.
Totally agree! :tu:
If there was there would be
So we shouldn't have an personal opinion because of that?
I can't have a counter opinion?
Yeah, that will show us. :tu:
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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Zexila wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
Zexila wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
Zexila wrote:
sin night wrote:I think there's a big need for an alternative.
Totally agree! :tu:
If there was there would be
So we shouldn't have an personal opinion because of that?
I can't have a counter opinion?
Yeah, that will show us. :tu:
Wish in one hand and crap in the other ... which fills up faster?

There is no evidence to support the idea that "there is a need for an alternative". Actually there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Especially in relation to audio support on Linux. It has one of the most widely used audio editing applications on any platform, especially in the scientific community. But, for DAW use Linux is still a backwater. And, all evidence suggests it will remain so.

I support your DESIRE. I refute your suggestion that there is some untapped need sitting nascently for the magic application.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer

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SJ_Digriz wrote:There is no evidence to support the idea that "there is a need for an alternative". Actually there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Especially in relation to audio support on Linux. It has one of the most widely used audio editing applications on any platform, especially in the scientific community. But, for DAW use Linux is still a backwater. And, all evidence suggests it will remain so.

I support your DESIRE. I refute your suggestion that there is some untapped need sitting nascently for the magic application.
Well, it was just an opinion, agree with him based on stuff he wrote, two guys on a forum think alike, not big deal really, just an innocent opinion/dream.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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Zexila wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:There is no evidence to support the idea that "there is a need for an alternative". Actually there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Especially in relation to audio support on Linux. It has one of the most widely used audio editing applications on any platform, especially in the scientific community. But, for DAW use Linux is still a backwater. And, all evidence suggests it will remain so.

I support your DESIRE. I refute your suggestion that there is some untapped need sitting nascently for the magic application.
Well, it was just an opinion, agree with him based on stuff he wrote, two guys on a forum think alike, not big deal really, just an innocent opinion/dream.
Again, I support you guys in your opinion. I don't know why you are bothered that I also have an opinion and shared it in a forum meant for discussion of those opinions. Having an opinion without any facts to back it up is not really an opinion by the way. What you have is a want.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer

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SJ_Digriz wrote:Again, I support you guys in your opinion. I don't know why you are bothered that I also have an opinion and shared it in a forum meant for discussion of those opinions. Having an opinion without any facts to back it up is not really an opinion by the way. What you have is a want.
My bad than, sorry for that, I misunderstood you and you are right, it's a want. :oops:
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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I use Linux quite a bit professionally, but I don't see the point of running it on the desktop other than for development purposes. For a computing or embedded application, sure. On the desktop/laptop for my music hobby... even if Cubase and all my plugins ran on it natively, no doubt it would receive minimal and conflicting support due to the fragmented nature of Linux distributions, as well as the issue of priority being given to macOS and Windows.

So no, I would not run Linux for my audio workstation even if I could. No hard feelings about it either!
SW: Cubase 9.5 | Komplete 11 | Omnisphere 2 | Perfect Storm 2.5 | Soundtoys 5
HW: Steinberg UR28M | Focal Alpha 50 | Fender Jazz Bass | Alesis VI25

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Yes

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