Hello, fellow hip hop lovers. I am passionate by old machines and vinyls, besides hip hop production. I love to tweak and look for drum sounds, and as I have seek a long time for an old school hip hop sound, I found my preference into the E-Mu SP-12 with his particular aliasing sound, which I find perfect for drums.
As you might already know it, this is a sampler that have almost the same engine as the E-MU SP-1200. Both E-MU SP12 and E-MU SP1200 have been used by several major artists, from the Beastie Boys to Dr Dre, J Dilla, KRS One, DJ Premier and more…
I decided to share my work with drums sounds and SP 12 into a new sounds library, it’s called 12nomore, I started it in early April. Right now, there is a free sample pack. Don't hesitate to check it out and judge the quality I deliver. It’s also a good way to check if it’s the type of sound you might look for in terms of vintage texture. There is also a 2 euros kick samples kit which contains 13 kick sounds.
All the sounds are sampled from various vinyls into my Technics MK2 and then depitched in my E-Mu SP-12.
Please enjoy them, use them, make good music with them, and don’t hesitate to hit me up with your feedback!
Peace!
Here is some good old 12 bits drum samples, from vinyls only!
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 1 Jun, 2017 from France/Germany
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Or even worse, there seems to be the implication that you intend to start selling your samples eventually. You do understand that you cannot sample someone else's music from vinyl or anywhere else and then redistribute those samples, right? You would need explicit written permission from the copyright holder of each and every sound you sample.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 1 Jun, 2017 from France/Germany
There is nothing to worry about :
1- All samples are heavily processed, pitched up with the sampling vinyle platine, and then pitched down with the Emu SP-12. Plus, I sometimes add FX to them.
2- Here I provide a service : finding drums from very old vinyles, editing them and processing them threw the SP-12. So I do not worry about legal issues there.
1- All samples are heavily processed, pitched up with the sampling vinyle platine, and then pitched down with the Emu SP-12. Plus, I sometimes add FX to them.
2- Here I provide a service : finding drums from very old vinyles, editing them and processing them threw the SP-12. So I do not worry about legal issues there.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
What you have just described is illegal.p.louis wrote:There is nothing to worry about :
1- All samples are heavily processed, pitched up with the sampling vinyle platine, and then pitched down with the Emu SP-12. Plus, I sometimes add FX to them.
2- Here I provide a service : finding drums from very old vinyles, editing them and processing them threw the SP-12. So I do not worry about legal issues there.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
Its not illegal to sample recordings by other people. It is illegal to redistribute them (free or otherwise) without permission of the copyright holder.deastman wrote:What you have just described is illegal.p.louis wrote:There is nothing to worry about :
1- All samples are heavily processed, pitched up with the sampling vinyle platine, and then pitched down with the Emu SP-12. Plus, I sometimes add FX to them.
2- Here I provide a service : finding drums from very old vinyles, editing them and processing them threw the SP-12. So I do not worry about legal issues there.
Last edited by thecontrolcentre on Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
Really?deastman wrote:What you have just described is illegal.p.louis wrote:There is nothing to worry about :
1- All samples are heavily processed, pitched up with the sampling vinyle platine, and then pitched down with the Emu SP-12. Plus, I sometimes add FX to them.
2- Here I provide a service : finding drums from very old vinyles, editing them and processing them threw the SP-12. So I do not worry about legal issues there.
I guess he's not the only one who needs to brush up on the laws of sampling!
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- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
Like Vengeance Sound do since years without getting into trouble?
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
Its redistribution without permission that's illegal, not the sampling itself.Russell Grand wrote:Really?deastman wrote:What you have just described is illegal.p.louis wrote:There is nothing to worry about :
1- All samples are heavily processed, pitched up with the sampling vinyle platine, and then pitched down with the Emu SP-12. Plus, I sometimes add FX to them.
2- Here I provide a service : finding drums from very old vinyles, editing them and processing them threw the SP-12. So I do not worry about legal issues there.
I guess he's not the only one who needs to brush up on the laws of sampling!
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
I'm curious how people like DJ Shadow can sample someone's copyrighted tracks, like Bjork or the like, and get away with re-pitching said samples yet not give them attribution. It seems he would have been sued years ago. Maybe this is one of those cases where it just depends on who you are. Or who it is you've sampled. Bjork doesn't seem to be someone hell-bent on suing someone for stealing a tiny slice of one of her tunes. 
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
Oh okaythecontrolcentre wrote:Its redistribution without permission that's illegal, not the sampling itself.Russell Grand wrote:Really?deastman wrote:What you have just described is illegal.p.louis wrote:There is nothing to worry about :
1- All samples are heavily processed, pitched up with the sampling vinyle platine, and then pitched down with the Emu SP-12. Plus, I sometimes add FX to them.
2- Here I provide a service : finding drums from very old vinyles, editing them and processing them threw the SP-12. So I do not worry about legal issues there.
I guess he's not the only one who needs to brush up on the laws of sampling!
Thanks for that, control.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
If you check out DJ Shadows albums, every single sample is credited to the original artist. Same with Massive Attack, etc. They (or the labels) got permission, probably by paying for it.Russell Grand wrote:I'm curious how people like DJ Shadow can sample someone's copyrighted tracks, like Bjork or the like, and get away with re-pitching said samples yet not give them attribution. It seems he would have been sued years ago. Maybe this is one of those cases where it just depends on who you are. Or who it is you've sampled. Bjork doesn't seem to be someone hell-bent on suing someone for stealing a tiny slice of one of her tunes.
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- KVRian
- 1479 posts since 2 Mar, 2005
Sampling rule 101:
You cant distribute other people's shit without their permission. Doesn't matter if you chop it, smack it, flip it, rub it down... reverse it, ring modulate it..... YOU CANT DO IT WITHOUT PERMISSION. If you choose to break the rule, be prepared for the consequences of such actions.
If someone snitches on you for doing such a thing.. that's a consequence of such actions.
If you get sued $100,000 but only made $10... that's a consequence of such actions.
If industry rule 5080 is record company people are shady, than rule #1 is attorneys are greedy & always ready for a case. Doesn't matter your size, shape or color, if they cant get you they may or may not use the full extent of the law to make a point.
Adhere to the rule at your own risk.
You cant distribute other people's shit without their permission. Doesn't matter if you chop it, smack it, flip it, rub it down... reverse it, ring modulate it..... YOU CANT DO IT WITHOUT PERMISSION. If you choose to break the rule, be prepared for the consequences of such actions.
If someone snitches on you for doing such a thing.. that's a consequence of such actions.
If you get sued $100,000 but only made $10... that's a consequence of such actions.
If industry rule 5080 is record company people are shady, than rule #1 is attorneys are greedy & always ready for a case. Doesn't matter your size, shape or color, if they cant get you they may or may not use the full extent of the law to make a point.
Adhere to the rule at your own risk.
I read more than post = I listen more than I talk
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 1 Jun, 2017 from France/Germany
I agree for long samples that can be easily verified. But for small drums hits that mostly does not last more than 1 s, plus very hard to be identified with the reverse fx chain, I hardly doubt that anyone could recognize any of my samples. But yes, I do mesure what I am doing. Plus, I asked lawer who are especially specialized in that kind of issues.