What does 7b/f means?

[TimeToProduce]

Yup, that's the question, what does 7b/f means? This may be for the guitar , but i'm trying to learn a song that is in 7b/f key.

[BertKoor]

Not enough context, but I read it as a slash chord:

• Flat seventh (minor seven) with the bass playing an F.

So that's not a specific key.

[Musical Gym]

maybe cm7/f (same as eb/f)
key of Bb

[slipstick]

Need a bit more than just 4 characters to help. Where does the "7b/f" occur and what makes you think it is telling you the key ?

If it may be a chord...what other chords are in this song? That might tell you a bit more about the key it's really in.

Steve

[Gamma-UT]

Are you sure it isn't a 27b/6? You'll have to get a specialist in for that.

[TimeToProduce]

I'm not really sure if this is the key of the song, it's the Oasis - Don't Look Back In Anger (Yes i started listening to it, after what happened in Manchester) And i was fascinated by the chord progressions and what key it was in, because it sounded so beautiful. I did a quick search on the internet and it said either C major or 7b/f and i got confused. I knew that it couldn't be Cmajor, because the song involved G# key (if played on piano)

Sorry if i wasn't specific enough, i though that it was enough information to provide.

[Gamma-UT]

I still can't work out what relationship "7b/f" has to Don't Look Back in Anger.

It's in the key of C maj - the song shares the same intro chords as Imagine (naturally, given Gallagher's liking of The Beatles' songwriting).

I'm guessing the 'problem' chord you're looking at is the E7 in the verse, which moves a half step to an F (which is something of an old Tin Pan Alley trick). The E7 is a chromatic mediant – an out-of-key chord but one which works well in songwriting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_mediant

Just because a chord contains what appears to be an out-of-key note doesn't mean it's wrong.

[TimeToProduce]

I still can't work out what relationship "7b/f" has to Don't Look Back in Anger.

It's in the key of C maj - the song shares the same intro chords as Imagine (naturally, given Gallagher's liking of The Beatles' songwriting).

I'm guessing the 'problem' chord you're looking at is the E7 in the verse, which moves a half step to an F (which is something of an old Tin Pan Alley trick). The E7 is a chromatic mediant – an out-of-key chord but one which works well in songwriting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_mediant

Just because a chord contains what appears to be an out-of-key note doesn't mean it's wrong.

Oh i see now! Thank you very much! I knew about the intro but yes the E7 chord you're referring to was not right in my eyes.

https://www.audiokeychain.com/track/FQj ... k-in-anger
this is what i was looking at, after others results seemed "incorrect"

[Gamma-UT]

https://www.audiokeychain.com/track/FQj ... k-in-anger
this is what i was looking at, after others results seemed "incorrect"

That site is so messed up it's not true. They're using some internal code based on the Circle of Fifths because it's supposedly easier to understand (bzzt, wrong) and then using software to make the wrong guess at the actual key. You'd be better off just getting the guitar tab by googling for "song name chords".

[BertKoor]

If you click on the key, the mystery unfolds.
You get a drop-down with all sorts of keys, allowing you to search for songs in simular key and/or simular tempo.

Short section:

Code: Select all

7A / Dm     7B / F
8A / Am     8B / C
9A / Em     9B / G

So it appears this is their own coding system of the twelve simple minor & major keys, based on the circle of fifths. Never seen a system like that. So the full context of the website was indeed needed to "decode" this cryptic piece of info.

[edit] cross-posted with Gamma-UT who came to a simular conclusion. I'd also say this song is simply in C.

[experimental.crow]

Are you sure it isn't a 27b/6? You'll have to get a specialist in for that.

easy for you to say , Mr. Tuttle ...

[Gamma-UT]

Are you sure it isn't a 27b/6? You'll have to get a specialist in for that.

easy for you to say , Mr. Tuttle ...

Why? I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form.

[BertKoor]

Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us.

[TimeToProduce]

https://www.audiokeychain.com/track/FQj ... k-in-anger
this is what i was looking at, after others results seemed "incorrect"

That site is so messed up it's not true. They're using some internal code based on the Circle of Fifths because it's supposedly easier to understand (bzzt, wrong) and then using software to make the wrong guess at the actual key. You'd be better off just getting the guitar tab by googling for "song name chords".

Well i did actually just search for a tutorial on youtube, found a tutorial but never got the name of the key. Just if i knew about that there can be keys out of a scale..

[TimeToProduce]

If you click on the key, the mystery unfolds.
You get a drop-down with all sorts of keys, allowing you to search for songs in simular key and/or simular tempo.

Short section:

Code: Select all

7A / Dm     7B / F
8A / Am     8B / C
9A / Em     9B / G

So it appears this is their own coding system of the twelve simple minor & major keys, based on the circle of fifths. Never seen a system like that. So the full context of the website was indeed needed to "decode" this cryptic piece of info.

[edit] cross-posted with Gamma-UT who came to a simular conclusion. I'd also say this song is simply in C.

If i click on the key, i get more confused than before..