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woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:06 pm

Anyone any views on this, as a Falcon owner it would be great to able to use own samples in conjunction with the included. I assume this is possible ?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:56 pm

Yup- I just bought and downloaded (as I really need another drum machine

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I am just using it In Falcon , works great as expected- can add/access everything.

Its actually very cool, can audition drum paters with different machines, layer, edit beats (there is even a Euclidian sequence generator) and when you are happy drag it to midi in your DAW (I just tried with Bitwig, worked no issues)

Not just the 10 000 samples, also the original patters from the hardware machines sampled and provided as spliced playable loops. There is a lot of variation to the original; sounds, filters, layers (with delay between samples) and pretty good basic effects (you will have access to better in Falcon!)

All in all at the current price I would say it is very good value and it really does sound very good....

UltimateOutsider · Post by **UltimateOutsider** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:08 pm

The library includes individual WAVs for most (all?) samples used in the included kits, but like all UVI libraries, they're embedded in the UFS file instead of supplied as individual WAV files in your file system.

You can very easily drag these samples from within the Falcon browser into your own Falcon kits, so this way you could easily mix and match your own samples with those included with Beatbox Anthology 2.

If you want to use the Beatbox Anthology samples in another program, like Battery, I don't think it's possible to simply drag a Beatbox Anthology 2 WAV file from the Falcon browser to your desktop (Falcon experts here- please correct me if I'm overlooking something), however if you drag the sample to a "Slice" oscillator in a Falcon instrument, you can then export the sample to your desktop by clicking and dragging the "WAV" button in the slice oscillator.

Also, you CAN drag the WAV files from the Falcon browser as audio events directly into a DAW. (At least it works in Live.)

But really the biggest improvement in my eyes with this library is that it offers multi-output kits for people who like to mix their drum parts separately. With the original Beatbox Anthology you had to edit the BBA kits for multi-out support on your own.

SirkusPi · Post by **SirkusPi** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:49 pm

SLiC wrote:... Its actually very cool, can audition drum patterns with different machines, layer, edit beats (there is even a Euclidian sequence generator) and when you are happy drag it to midi in your DAW (I just tried with Bitwig, worked no issues) ...

There's a pattern generator in BeatBox Anthology 2 itself (through the UVI workstation)? Or just when used in Falcon? I didn't notice that in the manual (although maybe I wasn't looking closely enough). If so, how well do you find it works?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:21 pm

SirkusPi wrote:
SLiC wrote:... Its actually very cool, can audition drum patterns with different machines, layer, edit beats (there is even a Euclidian sequence generator) and when you are happy drag it to midi in your DAW (I just tried with Bitwig, worked no issues) ...
There's a pattern generator in BeatBox Anthology 2 itself (through the UVI workstation)? Or just when used in Falcon? I didn't notice that in the manual (although maybe I wasn't looking closely enough). If so, how well do you find it works?

Its in BeatBox Anthology 2 itself, there is a selection for 'functions' when in the sequencer, really handy, can drop in standard rhythms, standard fills and even Euclidian functions ( for example, select 7 then 11)

There is also some very cool pre-sets- the layered sets sound massive and really modern and the 'recreation' sets have a lot of classic famous drum patterns (yes, including sexual healing

) Fun as that is perhaps more useful are the pre-programed sequencer (midi) loops, fills, hits etc.

Great stuff.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:24 pm

Can I get confirmation from those of you who own this that it does not generate midi output while playing? I am assuming that the only way to get midi out of this is by dragging and dropping the created midi part, is this correct? In other words, I would love to be able to use it as a sequencer (in real time) for other drum plugins, but I assume that you cannot do that.

otristan · Post by **otristan** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:28 pm

ghettosynth wrote:Can I get confirmation from those of you who own this that it does not generate midi output while playing? I am assuming that the only way to get midi out of this is by dragging and dropping the created midi part, is this correct? In other words, I would love to be able to use it as a sequencer (in real time) for other drum plugins, but I assume that you cannot do that.

Nop. Only MIDI export by drag n drop.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:55 pm

^^^tnx, that's what I thought. That's a shame really. I need a tool that works like this sequencer does allowing you to quickly mix and matched pre-saved instrument parts.

OneOfManyPauls · Post by **OneOfManyPauls** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:28 pm

fxpansion tremor sends midi out for the drum parts, so you can trigger other drum plugins, and it has a selection of ready rolled per drum patterns - see tip 7 here:

https://ask.audio/articles/7-top-tips-f ... ion-tremor

Stefken · Post by **Stefken** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:33 pm

SLiC wrote:
SirkusPi wrote:
SLiC wrote:... Its actually very cool, can audition drum patterns with different machines, layer, edit beats (there is even a Euclidian sequence generator) and when you are happy drag it to midi in your DAW (I just tried with Bitwig, worked no issues) ...
There's a pattern generator in BeatBox Anthology 2 itself (through the UVI workstation)? Or just when used in Falcon? I didn't notice that in the manual (although maybe I wasn't looking closely enough). If so, how well do you find it works?
Its in BeatBox Anthology 2 itself, there is a selection for 'functions' when in the sequencer, really handy, can drop in standard rhythms, standard fills and even Euclidian functions ( for example, select 7 then 11)

What I really like about Tremor is the polyrhythmic possibilities.
Do I understand it correctly that you can also do this in BA2 using the Euclidian functions?

Can you also create multiple patterns in BA2? Tremor has 24 patterns that you can trigger via midi.

OneOfManyPauls · Post by **OneOfManyPauls** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:22 pm

the step length is global in BBA2, so no polyrhythms - if you choose a euclidian template for an individual drum track it just repeats it to fit the pattern length.

it's just single pattern as far as I can tell - with no user preset/pattern manager baked into BBA2 itself, so just DAW saving unless I've missed something.

OneOfManyPauls · Post by **OneOfManyPauls** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:46 pm

Pro Tools Expert have a review up and have awarded it "Editor's Choice"

geqfreq · Post by **geqfreq** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:51 pm

Anybody check both Beatbox Anthology vs Wave Alchemy Revolution?

Any info thanks - G

sacer · Post by **sacer** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:11 am

for $49 the update is very cool, there are so much classic drums, you don't find elsewhere, and now beatbox has also a great workflow.

OneOfManyPauls · Post by **OneOfManyPauls** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:50 am

geqfreq wrote:Anybody check both Beatbox Anthology vs Wave Alchemy Revolution?

both are excellent drum machine sound sources imo, but there are some pretty stark differences:

revolution: better accuracy given multi-samples of hardware settings and outboard setups - 40k+ samples for 13 drum machines (14 if you count the 2 different 808s)

BBA2: drum layering gives more options for sound creation, massively more drum machines covered - 11k+ samples for 111 drum machines