KVR Audio

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:28 pm

Nobody forces you to buy the mini keys, it has MIDI input so...

fluffy_little_something · Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:33 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Nobody forces you to buy the mini keys, it has MIDI input so...

That was not the point, I don't mind mini keys. All I meant to say is that it seems to be much more compact than the photos without the keyboard suggest

But I like the sound judging from the video (haven't downloaded the demo version, yet

).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:34 pm

Ah, yes. All "boutiques" are extremely compact. Shove it in the backpack with your laptop and go. They have audio over USB, so you need just one cable to connect it with the laptop... Pretty nifty.

beely · Post by **beely** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:37 pm

EvilDragon wrote:I cannot for the life of me understand why Roland (and Yamaha too) still hold on to this antiquated method of patch management. Everything should be overwriteable!

Probably so their support department don't get overwhelmed with people going "how do you get the factory presets back?"

If you have a problem with them existing, just treat it as having 128 user writeable memories on board, and ignore the presets. Problem solved!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:38 pm

No, I have a problem with not being able to utilize the full memory space that's in there. Artificial limitations like "you cannot overwrite these patches because WE SAY SO" are totally not "the future" Roland seems to market all the time, it's more of a throwback to 1980s, where writable memory was bloody expensive. It's not the case anymore.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:40 pm

But why not give us 512 or even 1024 sound banks, and keep the 128 un-writeable if they want to.
Would that cost so much more to manufacture?

fluffy_little_something · Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:45 pm

I am not into hardware, but I'm wondering, is Roland's Boutique series a response to Yamaha's Reface series?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:47 pm

zvenx wrote:But why not give us 512 or even 1024 sound banks, and keep the 128 un-writeable if they want to.
Would that cost so much more to manufacture?

Totally not, and Behringer shows it with DM12, 1024 memory locations. Waldorf too, Blofeld has the same - and everything is overwriteable.

There's also another option: add facilities to always be able to load factory patches in banks of your choice. They would always be stored on a ROM chip somewhere, then you can always call on them if you want to.

Anything else is just ridiculous.

I mean, let's wait the first reviews, perhaps they'll surprise me and all 384 patches will be overwriteable... I'm not sure, though. (EDIT: Nope. In the video they explicitly say "384 ROM presets". Meeeeeh.)

hvyen · Post by **hvyen** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:55 pm

It will be a real analog machine, cool! Not like the other boutique machines which sounds good anyway.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:56 pm

EvilDragon wrote:No scatter or D-beam, I am dissapoint.

Haha that was great!

mrj1nx · Post by **mrj1nx** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:57 pm

No modular CV plugins/outs etc?

+1 on the D-beam, needs more gimmicks!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:00 pm

It has CV/Gate in and trigger in/out (for sequencing other stuff). Read the specs on the Roland site.

sprnva · Post by **sprnva** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:23 pm

Yeah but that's only useful for sequencing. No options for CV modulation with other gear.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:32 pm

Yep! For that, you will probably want the Ulimoog.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:35 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Yep! For that, you will probably want the Ulimoog.

Or *cough* *cough* a Moog Mother.

Roland beat Behringer to Mini clone with Boutique SE-02??