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ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:33 am

Any song (Jazz from Hell) –Zappa was so happy to have purchased the Synclavier in the mid 1980s – now he could get rid of musicians with their tedious personalities and human limitations and compose whatever the hell he so desired. Was this such a good idea, however? Aside from having absolutely no soul, the unmelodious songs on this album seem like nothing more than something you’d listen to in an Introduction to Electronic Music class as a sort of lesson in what was possible, circa 1987. But most importantly, does it stand the test of time? I don’t think so. Now that any bozo can make the same sounds with a $1,000 Mac, it makes us appreciate real musicianship more and more. No one will ever go to a concert hall to watch a person playing a computer.

http://www.killuglyradio.com/2010/01/29 ... gs-anyone/

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:56 pm

At the freak out
Later we'll peak out
You're on restriction
So you'll probably sneak out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohAuGTRPG-Y

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:45 pm

then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8behOcf7s

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:32 am

What's 'Revolution 9'?" responds Zappa. "I never heard it. I didn't like the Beatles. They sang about love and stuff - not my style.

mevla · Post by **mevla** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:15 am

Anyone know if the full Roxy & Elsewhere concert will finally be out on DVD ?

Rappo Clappo · Post by **Rappo Clappo** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:41 pm

This one?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5186078/

Frank Zappa & The Mothers - Roxy The Movie DVD Tracklist:

1. Something terrible has happened - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
2. Cosmik debris - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
3. Penguin in bondage - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
4. T'Mershi Duween - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
5. Dog (The Dog Breath variations) - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
6. Meat (Uncle Meat) - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
7. RNDZL - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
8. Inca roads - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
9. Echidna's arf (of you) - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
10. Don't you ever wash that thing? - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
11. Cheepnis (Percussion) - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
12. Cheepnis - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
13. I'm the slime - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
14. Big Switty - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
15. Be-bop tango (Of the Old Jazzmen's Church) - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
16. Don't eat the yellow snow - Frank & The Mothers Zappa
17. Father O'Blivion - Frank & The Mothers Zappa

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:20 pm

Richard Carpenter, now that is one awesome music arranger!

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:38 pm

I don't know about the officiality - but this one is the (more) original...

Firebird · Post by **Firebird** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:35 pm

Zappas music was never designed for "everybody" (as is the case for most complex/sophisticated music).
It was always challenging in multiple ways, socially, musically, politically, etc...

Appreciation for such music requires learning the "language" of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26X9ecyMZss

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:07 pm

Firebird wrote:Zappas music was never designed for "everybody" (as is the case for most complex/sophisticated music).
It was always challenging in multiple ways, socially, musically, politically, etc...

Appreciation for such music requires learning the "language" of it.

I'm not particularly impressed by pursuit of complexity for its own sake, if you can't be complex and still reach people, then maybe your complexity is more fueled by ego than actual musical talent. There's no denying his technical chops, that doesn't necessarily translate to good music. Therein lies the problem with music, it's not math or science, despite the mathematical and scientific underpinnings, it's art, it's human expression, and it will be judged in that context.

From a discussion elsewhere:

The Mothers were great.

I find Zappa's attitude superior, and condescending. He is constantly slumming around in the gutters of rock mythology and putting it and you down, while doing it. He is superior to it but he owes his musical career to it.

Obviously one of the great musicians but much better in the 60s.

I think that there's something there. If you want to be taken seriously, then write serious music.

From the same conversation:

Certainly ain't no genius. Nor would Beethoven be if he put fart jokes all over his symphonies.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:12 pm

I can't stand his guitar playing, but no doubt Frank Zappa is/was a genius.

I add link to Whipping Post to underscore my point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy1je4hWA14

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:19 pm

Uhmm... "Montana" is not "Whipping Post". Frank was actually bummed they couldn't just... whip it out
in 1981 Bobby Martin came into the band and he evidently had some experience with that thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxegBgNzyz0

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:22 pm

jancivil wrote:Frank was actually bummed they couldn't just... whip it out

No doubt, can hear him complaining "it is too fast for you?"

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:34 pm

Numanoid wrote:Richard Carpenter, now that is one awesome music arranger!

not really

He's pretty f**king mediocre if you ask me. Was that an attempt to be funny?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:40 pm

jancivil wrote:
Numanoid wrote:Richard Carpenter, now that is one awesome music arranger!
not really

He's pretty f**king mediocre if you ask me.

Good job I didn't ask you then, who needs butter knives when the real deal is around.

Carpenter is a genius. Just listen to We've only just begun or Yesterday, once more

Zappa - what a tight music arranger