As inspiration you mean, not convinced that it didn't do him any good. Not that I would know mind you, as you know, I'm all talk.Numanoid wrote:Didn't do John Entwistle any good.ghettosynth wrote:I see that none of you are invested in sources of inspiration...e.g., hookers and blow
And even those taking over his Quarwood mansion has succumbed to it
You've won Lotto
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- KVRAF
- 16802 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
He went too early 
And it is kind of scary that those in with money taking over that mansion, went even earlier
It's like those inhereting the TetraPak fortune, what is the use of all that money?
And it is kind of scary that those in with money taking over that mansion, went even earlier
It's like those inhereting the TetraPak fortune, what is the use of all that money?
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
Nope!Numanoid wrote:He went too early
Raging rock stars from the 60's & 70's are subject to early dismissal - as are Star Wars princesses & several SNL superstars...
Too fast to live - too young to die - byebye -
I'm just surprised that (The Great) JE didn't will all his stuff to Boris
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Well, when time is up, there aint much one can do, mucho dineros or not ...
Grateful I am though for that full bloodied bass sound, inspiration for Chris Squire (RIP) and JJ Burnel no doubt
Grateful I am though for that full bloodied bass sound, inspiration for Chris Squire (RIP) and JJ Burnel no doubt
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
Does the name: Jaco Pastorius ring any bells?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaco_Pastorius
His death wasn't directly due to excessive long-term drug use - but I highly suspect that chemistry had a hand...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaco_Pastorius
His death wasn't directly due to excessive long-term drug use - but I highly suspect that chemistry had a hand...
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- KVRAF
- 16802 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
There is a fantastic documentary on him. Really, I had no idea until I watched that how troubled he was.goldenanalog wrote:Does the name: Jaco Pastorius ring any bells?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaco_Pastorius
His death wasn't directly due to excessive long-term drug use - but I highly suspect that chemistry had a hand...
http://jacopastorius.com/film/
It was on Netflix IIRC.
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Of course I know about that.goldenanalog wrote:Does the name: Jaco Pastorius ring any bells?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaco_Pastorius
His death wasn't directly due to excessive long-term drug use - but I highly suspect that chemistry had a hand...
That was a total disgrace, a total injustice.
Like me, he was probably argumentative in a queue, but he should not have to die at the hands of a bouncer because of that
RIP Jaco Pastorius, one of the finest bass players to walk this earth.
Jaco never won the Lotto, he earned everything by his own skills.
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
And on the subject of top bass players:
Mick Karn, you are on my mind all the time.
RIP
Mick Karn, you are on my mind all the time.
RIP
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
My suspicions are that Jaco was so out of his mind at the time, that the bouncer responded in a way a trained martial-arts person might if he/she felt as though his/her life was in imminent danger -Numanoid wrote:He was probably argumentative in a queue, but he should not have to die at the hands of a bouncer because of that
Anyway: Who would attack a bad-a$$ bouncer unless they were crazy, or ridiculously high? That's like: 'death by cop' -
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
A "bad-a$$" bouncer should be able to deal with hecklers in the queue without causing GBH, otherwise it might just be Altamont all over again.goldenanalog wrote:Anyway: Who would attack a bad-a$$ bouncer unless they were crazy, or ridiculously high? That's like: 'death by cop' -
I mean, you need to be professional and that is a part of the job.
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
From Wikipedia:
"After reportedly kicking in a glass door, having been refused entrance to the club, he was engaged in a violent confrontation with the club's bouncer, Luc Havan, who had a black belt in karate."
This apparently happened *after* Jaco had sneaked on-stage at a Santana concert & got thrown out - and then wasn't allowed into the Wilton club - I'm guessing because of the way that he was acting.
Poor Jaco should have just dealt with the rejection - gone home & went to bed.
Yeah: it sounds like he was crazy at the time - a freight train out of control. Bad stuff happens when someone's in that state.
- Regardless of how it all went down: the world lost one of the greatest bass players of all time.
"After reportedly kicking in a glass door, having been refused entrance to the club, he was engaged in a violent confrontation with the club's bouncer, Luc Havan, who had a black belt in karate."
This apparently happened *after* Jaco had sneaked on-stage at a Santana concert & got thrown out - and then wasn't allowed into the Wilton club - I'm guessing because of the way that he was acting.
Poor Jaco should have just dealt with the rejection - gone home & went to bed.
Yeah: it sounds like he was crazy at the time - a freight train out of control. Bad stuff happens when someone's in that state.
- Regardless of how it all went down: the world lost one of the greatest bass players of all time.
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Black belt must be a total joke.goldenanalog wrote:From Wikipedia:
"After reportedly kicking in a glass door, having been refused entrance to the club, he was engaged in a violent confrontation with the club's bouncer, Luc Havan, who had a black belt in karate."
Somebody with that kind of skill not being able to pacify a punter without killing him, is a total disgrace, and bad joke.
I mean, how did Sid Vicious manage to survive Sex Pistols gigs using the bass as a baseball bat?
I don't believe everything I read on Wikipedia.
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
IMO the legislature of Florida got a lot to answer for.
They destroyed Jim Morrison, and they more or less let the killer of Jaco Pastorius go free.
They destroyed Jim Morrison, and they more or less let the killer of Jaco Pastorius go free.
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- KVRAF
- 8413 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
Do you even modular?SODDI wrote:A Buchla counts as 1, as does Moog.V0RT3X wrote:Moog System 35
https://www.bigcitymusic.com/collection ... /system-35
Shmidt 8-voice
http://www.schmidt-synthesizer.com/en/
Buchla System #7
2 Model 201e – 18 Powered Cabinets
1 Model 206e Mixer / Preset Manager
1 Model 210e Control and Signal Router
1 Model 222e Multi Dimensional Kinesthetic Input Port (4 panel units)
1 Model 225e Midi Decoder/Preset Manager
1 Model 227e System Interface (2 panel units)
2 Model 250e Arbitrary Function Generators (2 panel units each)
1 Model 255 Control Voltage Processor
1 Model 256e Quad Control Voltage Processor
1 Model 260e Duophonic Pitch Class Generator
6 Model 261e Complex Waveform Generator
1 Model 266e Source of Uncertainty
4 Model 281e Quad Function Generator
2 Model 285e Frequency Shifter / Balanced Modulator
2 Model 291e Triple Morphing Filter
4 Model 292e Quad Dynamics Manager
1 Model 297 Infinite Phase Shifter
Total Panel units – 36
Why just 3 items? May as well go all out and say 10 items at least.
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/ja ... ed-6343952
"When Jaco performed in his later years, he was notoriously unpredictable — genius or insanity, with nothing seemingly in between. After a voluntary stay at Bellevue Hospital in New York in 1986, Pastorius returned to South Florida the first week of 1987. Known for being an obnoxious drunk, he pissed off one too many people later that year. On September 11, he had a run-in with nightclub manager Luc Havan, a 25-year-old Vietnamese-born French national who had previously warned Pastorius about coming into his Wilton Manors bar, the Midnight Bottle Club. Havan, a martial arts expert, claimed that Pastorius struck him and that he hit him back only once, causing Pastorius to fall and strike his head on the pavement. But a witness and Jaco's condition suggested that Havan had actually unleashed a furious assault on the hapless drunk. After spending several days in a coma, Pastorius' heart stopped beating on September 21. Havan was later convicted of manslaughter but served only a few months in prison."
"Last year, in a web forum, a Jaco Pastorius fan revealed that he'd tracked down Luc Havan, the man whose punch killed Jaco and who subsequently served only a few months in prison for manslaughter.
Now a real estate agent in Palm Beach County, Havan says he is occasionally contacted by the curious and the angry. "I had people ask me if I was the guy," he says over the phone from his office. "I didn't want to add fuel to the fire, so I just disregarded [them]."
But Havan says he doesn't get harassed, despite the notoriety of his past. "In all these years, I've never run into anyone who's come up and said, 'You're him.'"
Earlier on the night of September 11, 1987, Pastorius had climbed onstage during a Santana concert and was escorted outside. According to Bill Milkowski's biography, Jaco: The Extraordinary and Tragic Life of Jaco Pastorius, the bass player had also engaged in a drunken confrontation with his ex-girlfriend, Teresa Nagell. Later, he was in Wilton Manors, stumbling into the Midnight Bottle Club.
"I just said, 'Listen, you're too drunk. You can't come in,'" recalls Havan, who says he also extended a peace offering. "But come back tomorrow night, not all drunk like tonight, and everything is on me."
Havan says he told employee Cristy Eaton to cover Jaco's tab the next time they saw him sober. "Because I knew who he was, and I'd heard how he gets when people don't recognize him and things."
With that, Havan says he turned around and walked away. "But he started to hit me, and I had a knee-jerk reaction, and I hit him. I tried to tell him to leave it on a good note, but, you know..."
At the time, Jaco had made himself unwelcome at almost every other watering hole in the area. "That's probably why he got mad at me telling him I couldn't let him in," Havan guesses. "I'd heard he was living on the street."
Havan remembers throwing a punch that hit Jaco's left temple. "That's where I admitted to hitting him, and that's where he got hit. But his major fracture was on the right side when he fell. The other side of his head hit the ledge by the door."
It's the story Havan has maintained from the beginning. But another witness told police Havan had actually pummeled Pastorius, and the man's injuries — his teeth had come through his lips — were too ferocious to have come from a simple fall.
Jaco was hospitalized in a coma for days before he died on September 19. Havan faced a second-degree murder charge, which could have earned him 25 years in prison. "At the time, I was 25; I'd never been in trouble, so it really scared me." Havan instead got two years for involuntary manslaughter. He explains that he spent just under eight months behind bars, then served five years' probation.
"A person who wasn't an alcoholic or drug addict but was of average health would have recuperated, because it wasn't that bad of an injury," Havan says. "But because he was in bad health living on the street and not eating a good diet, it made it worse."
Havan hasn't made an attempt to apologize to the family since his time in court, saying he doesn't want to bother them after his first attempt was rebuffed.
"The apology is as much to apologize to them as to make me feel better," he says. "Dealing with life after being involved with this is as important as their loss."
4.) Fender Rhodes Suitcase
5.) Moog System 55
6.) NED Synclavier 9600 (it'd be extremely interesting directly working with a fully endowed version of this beast - I consider it the Mount Everest of all digital musical keyboards)
"When Jaco performed in his later years, he was notoriously unpredictable — genius or insanity, with nothing seemingly in between. After a voluntary stay at Bellevue Hospital in New York in 1986, Pastorius returned to South Florida the first week of 1987. Known for being an obnoxious drunk, he pissed off one too many people later that year. On September 11, he had a run-in with nightclub manager Luc Havan, a 25-year-old Vietnamese-born French national who had previously warned Pastorius about coming into his Wilton Manors bar, the Midnight Bottle Club. Havan, a martial arts expert, claimed that Pastorius struck him and that he hit him back only once, causing Pastorius to fall and strike his head on the pavement. But a witness and Jaco's condition suggested that Havan had actually unleashed a furious assault on the hapless drunk. After spending several days in a coma, Pastorius' heart stopped beating on September 21. Havan was later convicted of manslaughter but served only a few months in prison."
"Last year, in a web forum, a Jaco Pastorius fan revealed that he'd tracked down Luc Havan, the man whose punch killed Jaco and who subsequently served only a few months in prison for manslaughter.
Now a real estate agent in Palm Beach County, Havan says he is occasionally contacted by the curious and the angry. "I had people ask me if I was the guy," he says over the phone from his office. "I didn't want to add fuel to the fire, so I just disregarded [them]."
But Havan says he doesn't get harassed, despite the notoriety of his past. "In all these years, I've never run into anyone who's come up and said, 'You're him.'"
Earlier on the night of September 11, 1987, Pastorius had climbed onstage during a Santana concert and was escorted outside. According to Bill Milkowski's biography, Jaco: The Extraordinary and Tragic Life of Jaco Pastorius, the bass player had also engaged in a drunken confrontation with his ex-girlfriend, Teresa Nagell. Later, he was in Wilton Manors, stumbling into the Midnight Bottle Club.
"I just said, 'Listen, you're too drunk. You can't come in,'" recalls Havan, who says he also extended a peace offering. "But come back tomorrow night, not all drunk like tonight, and everything is on me."
Havan says he told employee Cristy Eaton to cover Jaco's tab the next time they saw him sober. "Because I knew who he was, and I'd heard how he gets when people don't recognize him and things."
With that, Havan says he turned around and walked away. "But he started to hit me, and I had a knee-jerk reaction, and I hit him. I tried to tell him to leave it on a good note, but, you know..."
At the time, Jaco had made himself unwelcome at almost every other watering hole in the area. "That's probably why he got mad at me telling him I couldn't let him in," Havan guesses. "I'd heard he was living on the street."
Havan remembers throwing a punch that hit Jaco's left temple. "That's where I admitted to hitting him, and that's where he got hit. But his major fracture was on the right side when he fell. The other side of his head hit the ledge by the door."
It's the story Havan has maintained from the beginning. But another witness told police Havan had actually pummeled Pastorius, and the man's injuries — his teeth had come through his lips — were too ferocious to have come from a simple fall.
Jaco was hospitalized in a coma for days before he died on September 19. Havan faced a second-degree murder charge, which could have earned him 25 years in prison. "At the time, I was 25; I'd never been in trouble, so it really scared me." Havan instead got two years for involuntary manslaughter. He explains that he spent just under eight months behind bars, then served five years' probation.
"A person who wasn't an alcoholic or drug addict but was of average health would have recuperated, because it wasn't that bad of an injury," Havan says. "But because he was in bad health living on the street and not eating a good diet, it made it worse."
Havan hasn't made an attempt to apologize to the family since his time in court, saying he doesn't want to bother them after his first attempt was rebuffed.
"The apology is as much to apologize to them as to make me feel better," he says. "Dealing with life after being involved with this is as important as their loss."
4.) Fender Rhodes Suitcase
5.) Moog System 55
6.) NED Synclavier 9600 (it'd be extremely interesting directly working with a fully endowed version of this beast - I consider it the Mount Everest of all digital musical keyboards)