Your next guitar?

[tapper mike]

There are so many better ideas for tremolo units on the market. And some that are no longer available.

Notice how the tremolo system on the pre-refined parker has a wheel where you can adjust the play of the trem and on the underside a way to toggle between floating and fixed.


Notice the trans trem locks when it is in the down position.


A nice feature about the stetsbar is because of the the was the strings move parallel to the fretboard on a plate you can have low non trem action on a trem unit. As well there isn't the breaking point wear associated with a traditional whammy bar setup

Adjustments to the tension can be made via the top of the instrument rather than flipping it over and removing the spring cover.

[fedexnman]

So my wife likes to look at the local sales on Facebook including guitars .... Les Paul Standard Heritage Sunburst $960 .... So I felt this was a steal so now I gotta a new guitar , probably needs a setup and some strings ... It buzzes a tad in some places action seem real low , probably a tad too low . Anyways holy cow never thought I'd ever own a real classic type of electric guitar , the guy has like 3 Les Paul's , I guess he now has 2 after today. . He says he was real fond of the goldtop he has .

Had to return guitar to owner long story .... Kinda left me dry mouth like Too much MSG in the General Tso

[Uncle E]

Notice the trans trem locks when it is in the down position.

Reeves Gabrels:

A nice feature about the stetsbar is because of the the was the strings move parallel to the fretboard on a plate you can have low non trem action on a trem unit.

Thank you. I always thought of it as just a trem for Les Pauls, I never realized there were actual benefits of it over other trem designs. Listening to those sound examples, it sounds like a Bigsby (a good thing!) except that it stays in tune afterwards (a great thing!).

[incubus]

So my wife likes to look at the local sales on Facebook including guitars .... Les Paul Standard Heritage Sunburst $960 .... So I felt this was a steal so now I gotta a new guitar , probably needs a setup and some strings ... It buzzes a tad in some places action seem real low , probably a tad too low . Anyways holy cow never thought I'd ever own a real classic type of electric guitar , the guy has like 3 Les Paul's , I guess he now has 2 after today. . He says he was real fond of the goldtop he has .

Had to return guitar to owner long story .... Kinda left me dry mouth like Too much MSG in the General Tso

Bummer.

[fedexnman]

So my wife likes to look at the local sales on Facebook including guitars .... Les Paul Standard Heritage Sunburst $960 .... So I felt this was a steal so now I gotta a new guitar , probably needs a setup and some strings ... It buzzes a tad in some places action seem real low , probably a tad too low . Anyways holy cow never thought I'd ever own a real classic type of electric guitar , the guy has like 3 Les Paul's , I guess he now has 2 after today. . He says he was real fond of the goldtop he has .

Had to return guitar to owner long story .... Kinda left me dry mouth like Too much MSG in the General Tso

Bummer.

Yes it was , Im cured for awhile ........

[tapper mike]

A nice feature about the stetsbar is because of the the was the strings move parallel to the fretboard on a plate you can have low non trem action on a trem unit.

Thank you. I always thought of it as just a trem for Les Pauls, I never realized there were actual benefits of it over other trem designs. Listening to those sound examples, it sounds like a Bigsby (a good thing!) except that it stays in tune afterwards (a great thing!).

I constantly think about putting a stetsbar on my Tele.

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

i like the g&l 'dual fulcrum' vibrato setups...

http://www.glguitars.com/features/DF-vibrato.asp

[Uncle E]

There are similar all steel bridges you can get on eBay for around $30. I installed one into my American Standard Strat and it was a vast improvement, making the guitar sound more like a fixed bridge guitar.

The Telecaster-style bridge we installed on that Strat looks cool but it honestly didn't make a huge difference from the standard Strat fixed bridge, at least nowhere near as much as the solid steel trem on my American Standard Strat.

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

interesting. maybe i can get around to installing one of those on a guitar which currently has the old-style, 6-screw plate. the 'dual-fulcrum' style, anchored on each side into the body, looks like it would be an improvement.

ok, check it out: the $23 guitar -- http://www.ebay.com/itm/252509813196

maybe if someone needed a cheap experimentation/mod platform...


edit: turns out the guitar is actually around $55. it's sort of a bait and switch. it looks like a guitar in several different colors, but when you click on a guitar (only white available today), the guitar itself is 54.95 or somesuch. in the list of guitar colors, there's an amp you can click on, and that's the $22.95 item.

[incubus]

Man, that's cheap.

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

right? say you wanted to practice fretwork or whatnot, it's almost cheaper than buying a neck by itself. maybe these guitars were going for $75 at one point, and they're having a closeout?

on ebay, i've never seen a new guitar for $23 with free shipping. a lot of times -- particularly in the used market -- they will try to 'sneak in' the exorbitant shipping.

be that as it may, would someone buy one of these $23 guitars and think, 'oh this is all i will ever need'? probably not, but for experiments and maybe some spare parts, wow. even if the pickups work in a rudimentary fashion, they're probably worth $10-$15 right there.


edit: turns out the guitar is actually around $55. it's sort of a bait and switch. it looks like a guitar in several different colors, but when you click on a guitar (only white available today), the guitar itself is 54.95 or somesuch. in the list of guitar colors, there's an amp you can click on, and that's the $22.95 item.

[Uncle E]

interesting. maybe i can get around to installing one of those on a guitar which currently has the old-style, 6-screw plate.

Gotoh makes a nice one for retrofitting on to 6-hole trems. Of course, you could just simply remove the 4 inner screws and change the outer screws to ones with solid shafts near the tops. If you have a drill press, you could even go so far as getting inserts and using machine screws. People are doing that with neck screws, claiming it's a much more solid connection than wood screws, similar to a glued neck. It's actually good logic.

[nix808]

Hey Uncle E mate-
if you used the insert for a bolt,
you could use a type of bolt called a 'shoulder bolt'
maybe.
it would look pretty sick- the problem is that shoulders are too high usually
This can be solved another way though-
by using a small radius washer on a normal bolt.
It would be easy to turn the 2 washers

[Phorous]

Nothing too special, but picked up a MIM Fender Jazz Bass.

Its got a great tone and feels great to play

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

that mim fender bass looks tight.

i got the dimarzio virtual p90 installed. so far, it sounds to work as advertised, with no buzz. maybe time for the gotoh conversion on that guitar's vibrato plate....