Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

[Russell Grand]

Thanks for explaining, but I mean, it's your funeral in terms of optics. Kinda like having a gay old time, or smoking a fag. You can use those words if you want though. :p

(I'm assuming you meant "topics" instead of "optics", as I'm not sure how eyewear / vision comes into it apart from perhaps the look of the web page!)

He used the correct term:

2.
NORTH AMERICAN
(typically in a political context) the way in which an event or course of action is perceived by the public.

[andy-cytomic]

Thanks for explaining, but I mean, it's your funeral in terms of optics. Kinda like having a gay old time, or smoking a fag. You can use those words if you want though. :p

(I'm assuming you meant "topics" instead of "optics", as I'm not sure how eyewear / vision comes into it apart from perhaps the look of the web page!)

He used the correct term:

2.
NORTH AMERICAN
(typically in a political context) the way in which an event or course of action is perceived by the public.

I like learning new words, thanks for pointing out the North American usage

[andy-cytomic]

Andy,

Thank you for the quick reply. This is why I love your ace products: a guru at what you do, and abundantly kind to your customers. If you ever start a class on how to run a successful leading software company, I will be the first to sign up. Later.

V

You're welcome! I'm not always quick with a reply, I'm a crazy scientist that just can't leave something alone until I've finished my investigations and trying different things out. Weeks can fly by without much interaction with the outside world, so I apologise to anyone that has happened to!

As for running a small business I think the key is having a passion for what you do and appreciating your customers because they are the ones that let you follow your passion by supporting you. From that outlook good things happen for everyone. I also recommend a great book called Rework ( https://37signals.com/rework ), which I was given about a year or two into stating Cytomic. It re-inforced a bunch of stuff I was already doing, but also introduced me to loads of cool new ideas. On top of that it's funny and gives me a lift if I'm lagging.

[ftech]

Considering we are in a computer/electronic equipment and music forum, I'm more concerned that transistor isn't the first thing thought of upon reading the word tranny.

I've said tranny in relation to transformers (the electrical kind, not the transforming robots). Is that ok?

Yes! More than okay

[Ronny Pries]

Any chance for an OB6 inspired filter model? *-*

[audiosabre]

Dont worry guys, next time I hear an engineer say a sound is 'honky' I'm going to act all super offended on behalf of all Caucasians. That'll teach them for using racial slurs

[pitchdrifter]

So, Andy,

I'm currently considering picking up 'the Drop'. I'm hesitating however because of the CnR copy protection.
If I understand correctly there's two people that is Cytomic, and you're essentially both moonlighting the development work.

What happens when you get bored with writing audio plugins (or get kids and your spare time suddenly goes away) and decide to move on to other hobbies? Does the CnR system need maintenance and regular payments from your end to keep it up, running and doing its job?

Is there some sort of contingency plan in place that would make the 100 bucks last more than a year or two in usability time?

Cheers
Markus

[Vertion]

Andy,

I agree 1000%. Experimentation is key to discovery. Audio software geared for him to jam and he can join people together with music would be excellent. Kaossillator is an excellent inspiration in terms of software design direction for a simple interface, combine with easy online jamming at the click of a button (music only) and we have something epic and very addictive as a way to connect and share energy that even he can use. How about 3 x/y pads, Timbre(waveforms on x/y grid), Chords(chords on an x/y grid), Filter/Pitch (x pitch, y filter) in a set of loops and pointers.

V

Icarus, electric gladiator and sworn nemesis, his only synth burned as he soared so close to the sun he burned his wings. Rest your head, the spirit of the Phoenix is with him, and he shall rise in a grand new way.

[andy-cytomic]

So, Andy,

I'm currently considering picking up 'the Drop'. I'm hesitating however because of the CnR copy protection.
If I understand correctly there's two people that is Cytomic, and you're essentially both moonlighting the development work.

What happens when you get bored with writing audio plugins (or get kids and your spare time suddenly goes away) and decide to move on to other hobbies? Does the CnR system need maintenance and regular payments from your end to keep it up, running and doing its job?

Is there some sort of contingency plan in place that would make the 100 bucks last more than a year or two in usability time?

Cheers
Markus

I certainly wish I could pull off writing the worlds best analog modelling algorithms in my spare time while I worked another job, but I'm not that good! Cytomic is very much a full time business, it takes a lot of time and effort to deliver top notch plugins. We have an exceptional record for uptime (way better than iLok for example), and our authorisation system is very solid. The only time people have had trouble is when they used the wrong password, or had created multiple accounts and used the wrong one.

Once authorized a system will remain authorized unless you do something drastic to it like change the motherboard. You will more likely have trouble with operating system incompatibility than authorisation. For example we no longer support Windows XP because Microsoft no longer support it, but we still do provide old binaries for download. The key there is just leave your old perfectly working system alone and it will continue working.

We have multiple contingency plans. We will continue running an authorisation server 24/7 for a very long time. Worst case if we want to stop running the business we will continue running the web page / authorisation server as it's so cheap (USD 10 / month to keep an authorisation server running), and if we decide not even to do that we have already compiled standalone authorisation binaries on mac and win and we will release these to all customers. You will always be able to authorise your software on the systems it currently runs on, and on all systems we add support for in the future. Again the most likely source of trouble running the software will be because you've upgraded your operating system to the point the plugins no longer run.

[andy-cytomic]

Any chance for an OB6 inspired filter model? *-*

Do you have a schematic of the filter so I can have a look at the circuit? I'm guessing it's a pretty standard CA3080 OTA based SVF, so in that case just run the OSR filter really cold (ie boost the input -24 dB, and the output +24 dB) and make sure to keep the resonance at 95% or below (you could use the SAFE button). I decided to drop the SEM SVF because the Oscar sounded better and had more growl when pushed, and you could always run it cold to get a cleaner sound.

[jbuonacc]

... If someone is offended by the name of that track then I would prefer they don't buy the software anyway ...

love it, refreshing to see.

[Ronny Pries]

Any chance for an OB6 inspired filter model? *-*

Do you have a schematic of the filter so I can have a look at the circuit? I'm guessing it's a pretty standard CA3080 OTA based SVF, so in that case just run the OSR filter really cold (ie boost the input -24 dB, and the output +24 dB) and make sure to keep the resonance at 95% or below (you could use the SAFE button). I decided to drop the SEM SVF because the Oscar sounded better and had more growl when pushed, and you could always run it cold to get a cleaner sound.

The only thing I found was a photo of the PCB at GS:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachm ... g_0009.jpg

(from this thread: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... b6-15.html)

Boy, do I love that sound:



It's oh so soft without resonance, but not sterile. It sounds just musical and "right" to my ears. Yet different from any other filter I know.

[andy-cytomic]

News: The Drop Beta v1.5.5 is out. I've added the MOD button to help simplify the GUI when no modulation is needed. I've also updated the oversampling system to reduce latency as much as possible and improved nulling against the input signal with all types of oversampling. This is a very solid build, but I would like to hear back from a few people how it goes before removing the Beta label.

https://cytomic.com/drop - then click on the little (+) button in the download section

• New: added MOD button to enable / disable the entire mod section and change the size of the user interface to hide all the mods when bypassed
• New: Res Shift trimpot for adjusting the LP and HP resonance together, useful for DJ applications
• New: reduced oversampler latency to use the lowest possible to support current realtime and render oversampling amounts
• New: added advanced setting to allow dynamic updating of latency when switching between realtime and render – note: very few hosts support this, so this setting has to be manually changed in the settings.xml config file
• Fixed: the cutoff of the filters now remain strictly mono for mono inputs if SHIFT or stereo modulation aren’t used
• Fixed: uninitialised variable in linear phase oversampler

[zvenx]

News: The Drop Beta v1.5.5 is out. I've added the MOD button to help simplify the GUI when no modulation is needed........... This is a very solid build, but I would like to hear back from a few people how it goes before removing the Beta label.

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Thanks Andy....
so far only some OCD stuff.
like at the bottom of the gui.
Needs some cleaning up ...
rsp

[ftech]

I've added the MOD button to help simplify the GUI when no modulation is needed.

What! Who doesn't modulate?