Syntronik [update March 2018: New T-03 Bonus Content & 4-for-1 bass synth promo] available

[spacekid]

Are there any audio demo's of the Alesis Andromeda you guys sampled available?

btw will syntronik have a working vst demo to test before purchasing?

They re-named it "Galaxy"..scroll down on the audio demos(I hope it's good..I'm away from audio when online). http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sy ... onik-audio

[Bump1]

And then group the DCO-X synth as a JX-3P/8P/10 inspired synth? They are 3 completely different sounding synths.

JX8/JX10 are exactly the same hardware at the voice level, modulo voice count, obviously. The JX10 has two of the JX8 voice boards. There may be differences in software that could account for some difference in sound, e.g., eg times, however, they are anything but "completely different sounding."

The 3P, of course, has a completely different filter. However, it doesn't matter much with this product because they are all sample based synths and all of the filters are available with all of the interfaces, hence, the grouping is rather pointless anyway.

Then why not just throw the Juno 6/60 under the same group?

It's the exact same architecture as the JX3P except the envelopes are software generated. And the Juno is single osc....and does PWM but who cares because we're using presets anyway, right? And you can do PWM on the JX3P anyway.

Just trying to prove that IK is more about it's marketing sense as opposed to giving something that is just....better developed?

[JJ_Jettflow]

Just trying to prove that IK is more about it's marketing sense as opposed to giving something that is just....better developed?

Guess Moog was the same way. ..from Wikipedia:

''The Minimoog was designed in response to the use of synthesizers in rock/pop music. Large modular synthesizers were expensive, cumbersome, and delicate, and not ideal for live performance; the Minimoog was designed to include the most important parts of a modular synthesizer in a compact package, without the need for patch cords."

So it appears that the Minimoog, a stripped down and limited version of the Moog Modular, was developed and marketed for a specific demographic. Just like Syntronk was.

[Burillo]

This is an issue of semantics here. "raw oscillators" means the raw waveforms.

nope, it's not an issue of semantics. they did multisample "raw oscillators", so obviously they have "raw waveforms". they don't make them available to you, but that is a different issue - just because they don't make those waveforms available to you doesn't mean they didn't multisample them.

[LGK_Dude]

Also, we have six days (well technically a bit less than that) left to go before the preorder pricing on Syntronik is no longer available so if you are on the fence, it is getting closer to the point of no return.

And I'm still waiting for a walk through video showing how to modify / create a patch from scratch. i believe you mentioned in this thread that a video like that would be uploaded before the presale ends. Is that still the plan?

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Just trying to prove that IK is more about it's marketing sense as opposed to giving something that is just....better developed?

Guess Moog was the same way. ..from Wikipedia:

''The Minimoog was designed in response to the use of synthesizers in rock/pop music. Large modular synthesizers were expensive, cumbersome, and delicate, and not ideal for live performance; the Minimoog was designed to include the most important parts of a modular synthesizer in a compact package, without the need for patch cords."

So it appears that the Minimoog, a stripped down and limited version of the Moog Modular, was developed and marketed for a specific demographic. Just like Syntronk was.

What demographic was Moog reaching out to? The "can't dedicate a 5x8 ft wall in my house to a monophonic synthesizer" demographic?

You're comparing that to targeting preset warriors?

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This is an issue of semantics here. "raw oscillators" means the raw waveforms.

nope, it's not an issue of semantics. they did multisample "raw oscillators", so obviously they have "raw waveforms". they don't make them available to you, but that is a different issue - just because they don't make those waveforms available to you doesn't mean they didn't multisample them.

You're splitting hairs here for what?

A preset is not a raw waveform. But you can continue chasing your tail.

[JJ_Jettflow]

Just trying to prove that IK is more about it's marketing sense as opposed to giving something that is just....better developed?

Guess Moog was the same way. ..from Wikipedia:

''The Minimoog was designed in response to the use of synthesizers in rock/pop music. Large modular synthesizers were expensive, cumbersome, and delicate, and not ideal for live performance; the Minimoog was designed to include the most important parts of a modular synthesizer in a compact package, without the need for patch cords."

So it appears that the Minimoog, a stripped down and limited version of the Moog Modular, was developed and marketed for a specific demographic. Just like Syntronk was.

What demographic was Moog reaching out to? The "can't dedicate a 5x8 ft wall in my house to a monophonic synthesizer" demographic?

You're comparing that to targeting preset warriors?

Well if you take the complexity of the Modular and compare it to the limited palette of the Mini, then yes it is very comparable.

[JJ_Jettflow]

What demographic was Moog reaching out to? The "can't dedicate a 5x8 ft wall in my house to a monophonic synthesizer" demographic?

If you had carefully read the quote from Wikipedia, the answer to the demographic is right there....rock and pop musicians.

[Burillo]

This is an issue of semantics here. "raw oscillators" means the raw waveforms.

nope, it's not an issue of semantics. they did multisample "raw oscillators", so obviously they have "raw waveforms". they don't make them available to you, but that is a different issue - just because they don't make those waveforms available to you doesn't mean they didn't multisample them.

You're splitting hairs here for what?

A preset is not a raw waveform. But you can continue chasing your tail.

a preset is not a raw waveform, but just because they only have presets available to you doesn't mean they didn't multisample the raw waveforms used for those presets. it's not splitting hairs. you made a claim about a product that is incorrect, so i'm correcting you, because someone down the line might read your claim and make incorrect decision based on false information you presented. the fact that you use term definitions that are different from what is commonly understood by those terms is not my problem, and to correct you based on that is not splitting hairs.

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Well if you take the complexity of the Modular and compare it to the limited palette of the Mini, then yes it is very comparable.

It didn't take away the ability to build a patch from scratch though. It just took away modulation patch points that would make it harder to sound like you were farting into a portable fan.

Either way, fixed architecture synthesis the revolutionized the market.

It's a pretty safe bet to say Syntronik isn't even revolutionizing IK's own body of work.

[JJ_Jettflow]

It didn't take away the ability to build a patch from scratch though. It just took away modulation patch points that would make it harder to sound like you were farting into a portable fan.

Neither does Syntronik. What is the difference if you edit a patch or build one from scratch. Since in Syntronik you can edit the patches, what is stopping you from taking a patch that has the oscillators in it that you want and then adding the filter of your choice, since all filters are accessible in all presets and all models, and creating your patch that way??

[Bump1]

What demographic was Moog reaching out to? The "can't dedicate a 5x8 ft wall in my house to a monophonic synthesizer" demographic?

If you had carefully read the quote from Wikipedia, the answer to the demographic is right there....rock and pop musicians.

And that shows you there was an actual need to fill. There was a legitimate demand because gigging musicians couldn't carry a modular rig on stage...let alone even dial up a patch efficiently.

Not really an honest comparison here. Fixed arch synthesis was truly groundbreaking and much needed by the performing industry.

[JJ_Jettflow]

It didn't take away the ability to build a patch from scratch though. It just took away modulation patch points that would make it harder to sound like you were farting into a portable fan.

It also took away the ability to add more modules and patch options. That a lot of versatility taken away.

[JJ_Jettflow]

What demographic was Moog reaching out to? The "can't dedicate a 5x8 ft wall in my house to a monophonic synthesizer" demographic?

If you had carefully read the quote from Wikipedia, the answer to the demographic is right there....rock and pop musicians.

And that shows you there was an actual need to feel. There was a legitimate demand because gigging musicians couldn't carry a modular rig on stage...let alone even dial up a patch efficiently.

Not really an honest comparison here. Fixed arch synthesis was truly groundbreaking and much needed by the performing industry.

Syntronik is perfect for me but who cares what I or anyone like me who would be attracted to this product wants, it not good for you so it has to be sh*t because your needs are all that matter and everything should be made just for you.