Edgar Froese - RIP

[robotmonkey]

Dunc was right about TD. Underwater Sunlight was their last good album. The vast majority of their output since that album was released has aged worse than Mickey Rourke.

Definitely not true. They sucked badly from the end of 80's to the second half of the 90's (with the excepiton of two live albums ournado and 220 Volt live). But then they had a bit of a creative revival and made some excellent albums.

Transsiberia, Mars Polaris, Seven Years in Tibet and Inferno were all very good albums. After that, though, they have mostly released non remarkable stuff.

[Numanoid]

If you want money, go into the archives and release the live concerts from the 70's.

Already released via Tangerine Trees aint it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_Tree

"The creators of the Tangerine Tree project received permission from Tangerine Dream to release the collection on a strict non-profit basis. Several of the Tangerine Tree volumes have been used as the basis for official Tangerine Dream releases."

I guess you owe yourself to do a bit more research about stuff, before posting

[Dunc]

Do you really think that they did not carry out proper recordings of their own concerts, i.e. from the desk to 2, 4 or even 8 track tape.
Klaus Schulze managed to record virtually all of his concerts, albeit including a microphone input picking up the audience. Virtually all of Herr Schulze's recorded concerts are infinitely better quality than any Tangerine Tree stuff.

The vast majority of the Tangerine Tree stuff is bootleg audience recordings ( I know because I have a load of them myself ).
The famous, supposedly remastered by TD, release of The Royal Albert Hall concert in 1975 ( recorded by the BBC ) on the official bootleg series has no apparent difference to the Tangerine Tree release. I don't know what they supposedly did on the remastering ( carried out by Jerome Froese I believe ), but I can hear no difference or indeed see any difference when I look at the spectral balance of both recordings.

TD ( Edgar ) did not really have any choice but to endorse the Tangerine Tree releases as they were already 'out there' before he was able to commment on them. He probably thought, at that time, the minimal numbers would not be a problem. Indeed, sometime later, he asked for the withdrawl of the Tangerine Tree and Leaves series, probably as he saw how popular they were becoming.

As I said before, I speculate that Chris Franke has a lot of archive live recordings, but he is unable to release them without possible consequences. Does anybody know the circumstances of why they fell out?
By all accounts Chris Franke seemed to like to keep to himself. Perhaps he kept a bit more to himself than he should have when he left TD. I'm hoping that the book might clear up some of that history, but I suspect ,in keeping things civil, the book will not be helpful in clearing the air.

I just don't see that they do not have 'proper' recordings of all their concerts.

[Numanoid]

As I said before, I speculate that Chris Franke has a lot of archive live recordings, but he is unable to release them without possible consequences.

Would be interesting if Franke is sitting on more unreleased material.

Maybe I should send him a mail and ask about it...

http://christopherfranke.com/contact.html

[Numanoid]

BTW, I got to say wow, I didn't realize that Franke released almost 30 Babylon 5 soundtrack albums (via Sonic Image Records) during the latter part of the 90's

He was as busy with B5 as Jan Hammer was with Miami Vice.

[Numanoid]

Tangerine Dream 50th years anniversary this Friday.

[Chris-S]

Cool, and they are still doing experimental stuff:

[dumbledog]

I'm finding myself like liking the new album probably a good bit more than I "should." The end of the first track in particular has been stuck in my head all week.

[Vortifex]

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[Aloysius]

They should call themselves Marmite Dream (for the lovers and haters).

[dumbledog]

If they hadn't kept the TD name I'd never had heard the new album, so I'll take it as a win in my book.

[Chris-S]

It still bugs me that these people still call themselves Tangerine Dream. Especially while Franke, Schmoelling and Baumann are still alive. I respect them as artists but it feels wrong for them to continue under that moniker.

I don't think the Ex members do care about. And Baumann already did a short "trial" period in the "new" TD. Thorsten Q (the designated new director) already is 12 years member of the group.

[himalaya]

Obviously the current group has the full blessing of Edgar Froese, so it could be said that they carry the TD 'light', as it were.
Just focus on the 'dream' part....the dream still carries on... or is it a nightmare ?

Personally I find it beautiful. It's a continuation of a certain aesthetic, maybe even a philosophy, without wanting to sound pretentious, but certainly a continuation of a 'psychedelic trip'. I'm all for it as long as Guru Froese keeps a watchful eye on his students down here on planet earth.

[Numanoid]

+1

Edgar Froese, the original Tangerine Dream, the originator, I expect him to have thought so far ahead that he made plans in case of his (untimely) passing.

I doubt Tangerine Dream could continue without his legal blessing in such regard.

[Chris-S]

I'm finding myself like liking the new album probably a good bit more than I "should." The end of the first track in particular has been stuck in my head all week.

Yes, Quantum Gate is very good indeed.

"Sensing Elements" is the opening track (Ulrich Schnauss definitely had his hands on this):