Syntronik [update March 2018: New T-03 Bonus Content & 4-for-1 bass synth promo] available

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

I don't care what you people call it I'm going to have fun with Syntronik. I'm absolutely guaranteed to get $69.99 pleasure from it.......

While you're still arguing about what it is or is not I'll be using it to make some great sounds.

I didn't have enough Jam Points to go that low, but I was close. And same as you, looking forward to actually playing Synktronik....
It's already the 20th here in Australia...where is my Synktronik?!

I know you were (likely) joking, but for those that don't know: we posted the countdown with the specific date and time of 11:30 GMT July 20, 2017. It can be found on the Syntronik web page.

[Teksonik]

That makes it 4:30 am here. Not getting up that early. I just hope the servers aren't on fire by the time I wake up....

[ftech]

Hehe.. Yep, I was kidding.
I was aware of the countdown, and I'm not in a hurry to download, but looking forward to getting to play with Synktronik when I get the opportunity.
Might let the download run overnight here and see how far it gets...

[plexuss]

Out of the list of synth used to make Syntronik, which have you owned?

Here's my list:

ARP String Ensemble (Solina)
Micromoog
Minimoog Model D
Moog Opus 3
Moog Rogue
Moog Taurus I
Moog Taurus II
Oberheim OB-Xa
Realistic Concertmate MG-1
Roland Juno-60
Roland JX-3P
Roland RS-09 Organ/Strings
Roland TB-303 Bassline
Sequential Circuits Prophet-10
Sequential Circuits Prophet-5
Yamaha CS-01II

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Complete list:
Alesis Andromeda
ARP 2600
ARP String Ensemble (Solina)
Elka Rhapsody 490
Hohner String Performer
Micromoog
Minimoog Model D
Modular Moog
Moog Opus 3
Moog Prodigy
Moog Rogue
Moog Taurus I
Moog Taurus II
Moog Taurus 3
Moog Voyager
Multimoog
Oberheim OB-X
Oberheim OB-Xa
Oberheim SEM (Synthesizer Expander Module)
Polymoog
PPG Wave 2.3
Realistic Concertmate MG-1
Roland Juno-60
Roland Jupiter-4
Roland Jupiter-6
Roland Jupiter-8
Roland JX-10
Roland JX-3P
Roland JX-8P
Roland RS-09 Organ/Strings
Roland RS-505 Paraphonic
Roland TB-303 Bassline
Sequential Circuits Prophet-10
Sequential Circuits Prophet-5
Yamaha CS-01II
Yamaha CS-80
Yamaha GX-1
Yamaha SY99

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

That makes it 4:30 am here. Not getting up that early. I just hope the servers aren't on fire by the time I wake up....

You know that at some point you are just going to end up jynxing it, right??

[Teksonik]

That makes it 4:30 am here. Not getting up that early. I just hope the servers aren't on fire by the time I wake up....

You know that at some point you are just going to end up jynxing it, right??

Nay, my mere words have no effect on whether IK has anticipated the bandwidth needed to serve everyone in a timely manner........

Buckle up.....I fear a bumpy road ahead.......

[Elektronisch]

From what I can gather watching videos Syntronik will be able to select for example, square wave vs sawtooth, etc..and apply some of the simple synthesis methods you mentioned.

Where did you see that?

[Teksonik]

Just watch the video back on page 51.

[plexuss]

From what I can gather watching videos Syntronik will be able to select for example, square wave vs sawtooth, etc..and apply some of the simple synthesis methods you mentioned.

Where did you see that??? Please show me.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=485111&start=630#p6793209

Demo do sounds great! But i have very mixed feelings about calling this a synth because its clearly not a synth

Also im confused, clear me out:
walkthrough part 1 shows synths are being discussed and there has been mention of feature like voice stacking (unison). Naturaly you would expect this feature to be in this "synth" because why else you would mention that but how can that be if the content is sampled ?

Is there some oscillator edit page like where you would be able to select sampled waveshapes? mix volumes of oscillator?

Thanks for the kind words about the demos.

With regard to your question: We have sampled the raw oscillators in stacked in unison (with multiple round robins) so that you can use this sound and still adjust the filter and envelopes. We have also sampled some “full patches” where you get the unison sounds with the hardware synth’s sweeping envelopes, too.

[Elektronisch]

Just watch the video back on page 51.

Ive seen that and there is no ability to select waveform.

[Teksonik]

Just watch the video back on page 51.

Ive seen that and there is no ability to select waveform.

Your definition of "waveform" is too limited.

[Elektronisch]

Just watch the video back on page 51.

Ive seen that and there is no ability to select waveform.

Your definition of "waveform" is too limited.

No its not but my question was to this answer so where is an answer in that video you mentioned? Like direct answer.

From what I can gather watching videos Syntronik will be able to select for example, square wave vs sawtooth, etc..and apply some of the simple synthesis methods you mentioned.

[Teksonik]

Look at the top of all the instrument panels. You'll see the instrument name. I assume that is the sample content, panel settings like cutoff etc, Effects and Arp.

Some of the sampled instruments....from what I've read....are simply "raw" Saw or Square etc waves that you can use to build your own instrument within the confines of the architecture.

Anyway I'm out for the night. Hopefully I'll be having a play with Syntronik by this time tomorrow.....

[ghettosynth]

Look at the top of all the instrument panels. You'll see the instrument name. I assume that is the sample content, panel settings like cutoff etc, Effects and Arp.

Some of the sampled instruments....from what I've read....are simply "raw" Saw or Square etc waves that you can use to build your own instrument within the confines of the architecture.

Of course there are minimal patches. I don't think that anyone has suggested that there weren't. It is not, however, the same as selecting a "waveform." It's a complete sound. Suppose you get a great bassline with a MiniMoog sawtooth with all of the controls set just perfect. Only now, you've changed your mind and you'd rather have the 303 square wave instead, you can't "select" the different "waveform." You have to start over creating the same patch with a patch that uses the 303 square wave.

Use any wavetable synth like Massive to see how powerful it is to come up with a sound and then switch between waveforms while auditioning. Or, you can use many old romplers which have had this feature since the 90s.

Since waveforms are restricted to patch, you also are very limited in how many different combinations that you can have and/or how many oscillator/layer combinations that you can use. For example, for full versatility, with a typical three oscillator synth or two oscillator synth with sub, you will need to use three layers to obtain versatility.

Now consider something like the Alpha Juno or the MKS-50, the oscillator and sub have a wide variation in waveform selection. You can't mimic this with width, not in a sample based product. So you have no choice but to sample all of the different variants, or sample only a few of them. Either way, you have an issue. Either you get this huge explosion in different combinations, or you are limited in what you can construct.

If a sample based product is what you want, there's nothing wrong with that, but, thinking that what Syntronic offers comes remotely close to what we're talking about just conveys misunderstanding of what it actually offers and what it means to emulate existing analog instruments.

This is a very limited product from a synthesis point of view.

[plexuss]

This is a very limited product from a synthesis point of view.

... because it's not a synth. It is what it is: a sample library taken from vintage synths in a framework that allows filtering, envelope and some other parameters, effetcs and layering. That's what it is. "ROMpler" isn't accurate, nor is "synth". It's much like UVI's products for example. They key is going to be in the quality of the sampling and the over-all usability which are unknown by most until it's released in 7 hours. Then you can go nuts tearing it apart.