SONAR 4 Surround....

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Do you mix in surround?

I will in Sonar 4
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26%
No I don't
18
43%
With more knowledge on it possibly yes
8
19%
Too expensive to set up, (software and hardware)
2
5%
Yes but with another package
3
7%
 
Total votes: 42

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Full details... :shock:

Edirol

The definitive audio production environment for Windows
SONAR has a well-earned reputation for delivering powerful production tools in a fast, streamlined user interface. With SONAR 4, Cakewalk has added powerful new recording, editing, comping and navigation tools that optimize workflow for today's professional. In addition, version 4 combines innovative Surround Sound and AV capabilities along with precise engineering tools.

SONAR 4 Producer edition is the perfect solution for composing, recording, editing, mixing, and remixing music productions; and for providing foley, voice over, score, sound design and post audio for film, TV, video, commercials, and games.

With its open support for industry standard technologies and hardware, the scalability of a native processing system, and virtually unlimited software capabilities, SONAR 4 Producer represents the definitive audio & music production software for Windows.

SONAR 4 Producer Exclusives

Multi-format surround mixing with over 30 configurations supported (5.1, 7.1, LCRS and more)
Lexicon® Pantheon™ Surround Reverb
Lexicon® Pantheon™ Reverb
Sonitus Surround Compressor
Sonitus fx Suite
SurroundBridge™ - use stereo plug-ins in multi-channel environments
Video Thumbnail track
POW-r Dithering with three algorithms
Prosoniq MPEX time scaling
Dynamic Console with per-channel EQ, assignable FX controls

SONAR 4 New Features

Track Folders with the ability to edit the Track Folder Composite Clip

Loop record into layers or individual tracks

Enhanced comping and editing features: clip muting, partial-clip muting, auto-crop tool with cross-fade mode, audition selection, isolate, nudge

Multi-clip slip edits, loop-rolling, fade drawing

Loop construction enhancements: slice-based envelope control of gain, pitch, pan; slice preview; auto-loop

Freeze tracks, effects, and synths; edit, arrange, and convert frozen data into groove clips

Scalable Navigator view to quickly navigate and size viewable area of projects

Configurable Pan law (six stereo panning laws supported)

Professional Metering (peak, RMS, peak and RMS, pre-fader, post-fader, and pre-fader post effects) with configurable ballistics

Key Binding enhancements: presets; templates to mimic keyboard assignments of other DAW programs

TTS-1 multitimbral, multi-out GM2 synthesizer with authentic Roland® sounds

Full control over file export parameters, now with useful and configurable presets

Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, and WMA9 lossless encoding and decoding

Open support for external encoders: surround (Producer Edition only), LAME, Ogg Vorbis, Monkey's Audio, etc.

Supports QuickTime, Windows Media Video, and AVI with 5.1 Surround Sound (Producer Edition only)

Bus-able Audio Metronome

Full-control over color settings

Optimized audio engine performance

Export buses and tracks into a composite mixdown, or as individual files

SONAR 4 Key Features

Record, edit, arrange and mix unlimited tracks of audio and MIDI

Dynamic Console

Universal Bus Architecture with on-the-fly configuration

32-Bit floating point audio engine

80-Bit automation

Full plug-in delay compensation

Ultra-high quality sample rate conversion with Windowed Sync resampler algorithm

Support for any sampling rate (44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 192, 384 kHz)

Precise waveform display at any zoom resolution

Rock-solid synchronization of audio, MIDI, video, external hardware

Sub-sample accurate internal timing resolution for audio, soft synths and automation; 960 PPQN for external MIDI devices

HyperThreading/multiprocessor optimization

Loop-based composition, construction, and editing tools with ACID™ loop and MIDI groove clip support, Cyclone DXi

Support for DirectX and VST audio effects; MFX MIDI FX; DXi and VSTi soft synths; and ReWire 1.0 & 2.0 clients (Project5, Kinetic, Reason, more)

Includes 31 audio effects 4 DXi soft synths, 14 MFX

Advanced MIDI routing & synth layering

Unlimited undo/redo with edit history

Assign hotkeys for custom screen layouts

Views: Arrange, Big Time, Console, Drum Editor, Event List, Loop Construction, Lyrics, Markers, Multitrack Piano Roll, Staff Notation, Playlist, SYSEX, Synth Rack, Tempo list/graph, Video, more

Professional Project File Management Tools: per project audio directories; consolidate project files for fast backup; search for associated files

Extensive, context-sensitive online help and 650+ page printed manual (Thank you Cakewalk)

Unparalleled, free customer service and online user community

Hassle-free copy protection (serial number on installation)

Designed exclusively for and optimized for Windows XP/2000

Hardware and compatibility

OMFI & Broadcast Wave import/export for cross platform collaboration with Digital Performer, Logic, Nuendo, and Pro Tools studios
Import formats: AIF, ASF, AU, AVI (with stereo or 5.1 audio), Broadcast Wave, MIDI, MP2, MP3, MPEG, MPG, OMFI, Quicktime, SND, WAV, Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, WMA9 lossless, Windows Media Video, proprietary Cakewalk formats (.bun, .cwb, .cwp, .wrk)

Export: WAV, ACID-format WAV, Broadcast Wave, AVI (with stereo or 5.1 audio),, OMFI, MIDI, MP3*, Quicktime,, Real Audio G2, Windows Media Audio 9 (WMA), WMA9 Pro 5.1, WMA9 lossless, and proprietary Cakewalk formats (.cwb, .cwp); Other audio formats supported via external command-line encoders

Open support for external encoders: surround, LAME, Ogg Vorbis, Monkey's Audio, etc.
Export video with control over quality settings and codecs

Support for any MIDI compatible hardware control surface (Edirol, Mackie, Tascam, more)

Frame-accurate SMPTE sync with auto-detection of timecode

Multi-port MTC and MIDI sync transmission

Yamaha OPT Level 1 MIDI Hardware Link support

Support for all Windows-compatible audio hardware (including Pro Tools | HD) via ASIO or WDM

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christianmusicmaker wrote:Full details... :shock:
Appreciate the effort -- but you're 1 page too late :lol:

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And people will take it more seriously now it has a metronome... :?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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I'm sorry, but I can't get exited by this. Optimized audio engine and the trackfolders are the main new features, but is that worth a new realease? It looks more like an update to me..

Oh, the pan-laws, yes.. that only concerns those artist that "port" their project to other DAW-enviroments.

I was hoping for full vst-support, better rewire-handling, more flexible console that could be custom configured to software/hardware effects (studioware is nice, but it's still like a program-inside-a-program), more dithering options, improved timing, more audio-routing facilities etc. etc. I'll stick to 3PE untill Cakewalk presents me to something worth the money for the upgrade. I'm sure they will in a very short while 8)
Rolf '3mph' Hansen

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3mph wrote: more flexible console that could be custom configured to software/hardware effects (studioware is nice, but it's still like a program-inside-a-program),
Maybe that's what they mean by "dynamic console?" :?:

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I'm not sure, but I think it refers to that you can hide/show/resize channels and hide/show internal or included fx in it.
Rolf '3mph' Hansen

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EricRichmond wrote:hey spaceman, I just nabbed it from the site sorry :(

actually is that legal? if not let me know and I will edit the post asap.

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Optimized audio engine performance
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Robert, could this be the upgrade you were looking for? :D :)
:lol:
I know, I checked the site.. I was being sarcastic, saying edirol could have posted some better screengrabs than that
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Optimized audio engine and the trackfolders are the main new features
really? i'm quite surprised by this statement. FMI, does sonar 3 have the surround & video capabilities?

anyway, for a sonar2 owner like me the step is quite huge. :hyper:

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Wopelka wrote:does sonar 3 have the surround & video capabilities?

anyway, for a sonar2 owner like me the step is quite huge. :hyper:
No surround in S3.

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3mph quoth I'm sorry, but I can't get exited by this. Optimized audio engine and the trackfolders are the main new features, but is that worth a new realease? It looks more like an update to me..

Umm, no, they're not the main new features'.

But it doesnt take long for folk to start complaining does it.

"Well, I see all this stuff, but I dont know why they put it and then call it a new version. I dont need any of this stuff, so why can't they give it to me as an update instead of me having to pay for it"

Sheesh. :roll:
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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Well.. I'm just a little disappointed, that's it. Of course I'm happy with the new features, and my first post might have been a little grumpy not clarifying this.

I looks like Cakewalk is aiming at a larger market now, and exites me a bit. It means that my struggle for cakewalk/sonar will finally be rewarded by the worldwide compatibilty that Logic/Cubase/PT have had for a long time.


Another screenshot here
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Rolf '3mph' Hansen

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The Orchestrator MFX sounds interesting as well...
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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Wow, the new included Roland softsynth, TTS-1 DXi multitimbral GM2 synthesizer, looks very similar to the Roland HyperCanvas, which costs hundreds of dollars by itself. Looks like the Cakewalk/Roland partnership is paying off bigtime for SONAR customers. :P So far I am liking this S4 Pro upgrade even better than the previous S3 Pro one. :)
I can see Cakewalk has listened to it's customers as many of the feature requests from SONAR 3 are implemented now in S4. For me, this will be a must have upgrade and I will be pre-ordering the Producer Edition, as soon as they start taking orders. Hopefully, it will be first come, first served :D
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Last edited by Alfalfa on Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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What's this new feature, SurroundBridge... to easily use stereo plug-ins in a multichannel environment It appears to be trademarked too, mmm...using regular stereo audio plugins in 5.1 & 7.1 Surround.

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