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Can we get next beta auto-bundled with Steampipe or another melodic ensemble?
Info pane says Welcome to Wellenreiter. Dorian is misspelled as Dorain under Werling pane. What is Werling?
PD auto-fits nicely in R6 but doesn't fit exactly in R5 (scrollbars) in Studio One 3.5.1.+
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David wrote:"…which does also help with taming rmx itself…"

Actually, I take that back; I've just set rmx T to the slowest setting, and there are still RMX settings that skip and shuttle back and forth at the same nearly audible rate as ever, not changing at all as the rmx-T knob is moved about.
I guess you mean the roll-fx?
The roll-FX is a division of a dedicated 16th-step (in the CTRL-lane) into (up to) 6 smaller (re-trigger) chunks in the same 16th step (depending of the highness of this value) !

On 120 BPM a 16th is as little bit short, as it is! (normal sustain/release.. all will smeared, even without ROLL)
If you divide this (and activate ROLL)... each step will be much more short. If you set to a whole Roll-Value, this step, will play 6 re-trigger in one step (= a bunch of 96 notes).
If the step is only half-high, there will come just "3 inside-step-trigger"...

Maybe its buggy, but i have teste in LIVE and all recorded clips, gives me exactly the "division-pos" inside one 16th!
Please check this, with your DAW - there is a big excepted sounding, and the correct re-trigger on the relevant points!

For sound-check i recommend the test-synth with very short decay. Otherwise the "long decay, SUS and release... settings will completely "matsch" the (correct) effect.

Best option: record the PD-output in your DAW and see (very deep zoom) if there are "wrong" triggers!

There will come a lot of wrong-times, but ist because NI and your DAW communicates via the 40 years old midi-protokoll.
To avoid this delay, latenz, and jitter... you must set your DAW to the smallest "AUDIO-setting", possible.
Sounds ???, but a smaller audio-rate, will also more often "quest" the current mid-settings...!
With 32 samples AUDIO-latenz, you have to zoom, so very deep inside the "midi-file" you will not remark an "offset" or jitter for a very wide range! First if zoom extrem deep (like 4000 notes, you will remark, very small deviations!)
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Musical Gym wrote:
1.Can we get next beta auto-bundled with Steampipe or another melodic ensemble?


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Info pane says Welcome to Wellenreiter. Dorian is misspelled as Dorain under Werling pane. What is Werling?
PD auto-fits nicely in R6 but doesn't fit exactly in R5 (scrollbars) in Studio One 3.5.1.+
Numbers in the quote by me!

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Yeah, as soon as "final", i could create some PD to your XY (your wished-instrumet), (inside)! No matter!
But each target-synth must be from the NI -library!
I cannot "pack" a PD and a extra-money-Razor for example!

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I do not understand! i give the question back: What is Werling? Where did you see this????
All other small in-corrections, yeah, its a beta, isnt it?

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PD auto-fits nicely in R6 but doesn't fit exactly in R5 (scrollbars) in Studio One 3.5.1.+

There are a lot of more differences between R6/5!
PD 2 is my last R5-support! I do not know, but i guess, you have different setttings for R6 and R5 in the "behavior" dialog for booth plug-ins, in Studio One!

Try the most possible "X/Y setting for R5 and for R6 (In studio-one for BOOTH plugs as general setting, and maybe this "bug" will disappear...???)

If not... call again! But however: This version of PD will be my last R5... after this (inclduding all ups for PD 2... will only be readable for R6).
In other words: if this a R6 item, i will try to fix! If this a R5 problem, sorry... no support anymore!
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Werling is in box that lists some of the scales.
All else is ok for now since it is beta. I have R6 so no need to fix for R5 for me.
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DJ-Superherpes wrote:
David wrote:"…which does also help with taming rmx itself…"

Actually, I take that back; I've just set rmx T to the slowest setting, and there are still RMX settings that skip and shuttle back and forth at the same nearly audible rate as ever, not changing at all as the rmx-T knob is moved about.
I guess you mean the roll-fx?
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Useful info, thanks! But, no, I meant rmx lane settings, in stand-alone mode. I set one lane to RMX, the others not, set the (previous) rmx T knob to any number from 2 up and then scrolled through many rmx numbers…and found that there was no difference in speed or sound from the RMX-set lane when I switched to slower rmx T settings. On faster settings on the rmx T knob (0, 1), the RMX lane also sped up. This was for ver 08 07.

Just tried this again with ver 08 08x; same, except that it's knob setting 3 and above that are all the same; 2 and below speed up the RMX speed and sound.
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It's easy to swap in Steampipe; just drag it in to the Panel>E structure view, delete the test synth and patch SP's outs to the outs test was connected to.

BUT, you must also select Steampipe and go the CONNECT tab in the far-right Properties option and set the MIDI IN From External Devices to None, and From Internal Devices to PD MKII, like so:
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…Uh oh!! But wait, just discovered this:
In this version 08 08x (didn't notice this in any earlier version), there seem to be some stored Program Change messages in the different MS (as well as new ones getting created when a new MS is stored), so that switching between them and some flexes, SteamPipe ALSO changes snaps, and not always on load, either, sometimes just happens after a few cycles of Harm+++, (I guess it's something there that triggers this, but I don't actually know).

To fix, I have to go here and do this (turn ON Snap Isolate for Steampipe and turn OFF Recall by MIDI. Too bad, means you can't save flexes with different Steampipe snaps.:(
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Sure sounds good, though, running PD into Steampipe:)
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David wrote: ... I meant rmx lane settings, in stand-alone mode. I set one lane to RMX, the others not, set the (previous) rmx T knob to any number from 2 up and then scrolled through many rmx numbers…and found that there was no difference in speed or sound from the RMX-set lane when I switched to slower rmx T settings. On faster settings on the rmx T knob (0, 1), the RMX lane also sped up. This was for ver 08 07.

Just tried this again with ver 08 08x; same, except that it's knob setting 3 and above that are all the same; 2 and below speed up the RMX speed and sound.
Thanks - the RMX-speed is now "slaved" to the global main-speed/straight/tripple... (TIME).


And thanks for your steampipe-post! I never, never could better explain this "blueprint"!
You can replace test-synth, or steampipe... with whatever you want!
But thats only for testing! In your DAW you must "connect" the PD track with your target VSTi on another track, or with different VSTi on different tracks...?
(EACH track with is able to receive notes from every, is a potential"target": Kontakt, synth one, your DAW-synths.. all the same!
If the target track(s) is (are) connected... you can trigger or record... all PD stuff e.g. for fine-edits... or whatever you want!

The rest --- i will take a look and fix asap
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Musical Gym wrote:
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Can we get next beta auto-bundled with Steampipe or another melodic ensemble?


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Info pane says Welcome to Wellenreiter. Dorian is misspelled as Dorain under Werling pane. What is Werling?
PD auto-fits nicely in R6 but doesn't fit exactly in R5 (scrollbars) in Studio One 3.5.1.+

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Not in next beta, but in the final, i will "compact" lot of NI-ensembles to PD. No matter!

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What is Werling?

Good question: I do not know, but i will take a deeper look!


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However: Thank you!
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Thanks for tips with Steampipe connections, etc.
Now that I look more closely, it says Worling, I think.
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David wrote: To fix, I have to go here and do this (turn ON Snap Isolate for Steampipe and turn OFF Recall by MIDI. Too bad, means you can't save flexes with different Steampipe snaps.
Yeah, this "(master)snap-slave-behavior" for instruments is reaktor-standard. Thanks for mention it!
Important point: I will mention this approximately unknown, possible "trap"in the manual.

And of course, each 3trd party instrument will not support the AM-flex-system, just ordinary snapshots! But, it could be possible, that each flex# do a program-change in e.g. steampipe. But if eg. flex #04 recall snapshot #17 in steampipe, you would need an extra view, wehre you can replace all flex# with the target-snap in the 3rd party!
Hm, if really wished, i could implement such stunt!
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Hm, if really wished, i could implement such stunt!
Seems a useful option to me…
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Musical Gym wrote: Now that I look more closely, it says Worling, I think.
Bet that's a typo: worling=working
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Yes, I thought it was probably just notes to yourself on interface about which scales were currently working.
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David wrote:
Hm, if really wished, i could implement such stunt!
Seems a useful option to me…
Isn't this something the user could do on his/her own?

Is it in scope for PD success, or will it introduce more problems which might affect progress and outcome of successful PD completion?
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Reaktor topics typically go here: viewforum.php?f=23
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