I've got a simple I-Imaj7 progression in C... I would like to create a four-note phrase that always plays the root at the bottom, and then plays the other three notes as chord tones – playing the fourth note in an extended chord, and doubling the root in a triad. I'd like that rule to hold when I move the chord up or down to do inversions.
Let me give an example...
So I make a phrase with four notes – root (as a Bass note), Ch(L+1), Ch(L+2), Ch(L)-1. The last three are all Chord notes, with the fourth note having "ignore non-existent chord note" set.
(btw if I put that phrase under a I, it still plays the fourth note which is unexpected – I thought "ignore non-existent chord note" would prevent it from sounding. anyway...)
What I want, when I place it under a I (C), is to play:
C-E-G-C. Right now it plays C-E-G-B, which I think it should not because of "ignore non-existent chord note."
Now if I drag it up, I want it to play: C-G-C-E – it keeps the Bass note the same, and inverts the top three Chord notes.
Similarly a Imaj7 should play C-E-G-B, and when I move it upwards I want it to play C-B-E-G.
Is this possible? And am I using "ignore non-existent chord note" incorrectly?
Chord phrases – keeping bass notes the same, and doubling chord tones
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- KVRAF
- 6014 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
Hi padillac,
very good question. Now that I tried all possible inversions I realized that a few does not work as expected. Phrases that have 'bass' notes, or higher chord notes without 'ignore non-existent chord note' set may behave strange. I will fix this in the next few days, I hope.
You don't have the right notes. If you want to have C-E-G-C for C major, you must have the lowest 4 chord notes added, all without setting 'ignore non-existent chord note': Ch(L), Ch(L+1), Ch(L+2), Ch(L+3). For 3-note chords this results Ch(L+3) will become Ch(L)+1 octave. If 'ignore non-existent chord note' is set, notes with Ch(L+3) will not even appear in the phrase. For 4-note chords Ch(L+3) becomes the 7th note. Sorry for this stupid mathematical notation, but chord notes must be referenced to somehow.
I will update the status of the ongoing fixes in this topic.
Thanks!
Attila
very good question. Now that I tried all possible inversions I realized that a few does not work as expected. Phrases that have 'bass' notes, or higher chord notes without 'ignore non-existent chord note' set may behave strange. I will fix this in the next few days, I hope.
You don't have the right notes. If you want to have C-E-G-C for C major, you must have the lowest 4 chord notes added, all without setting 'ignore non-existent chord note': Ch(L), Ch(L+1), Ch(L+2), Ch(L+3). For 3-note chords this results Ch(L+3) will become Ch(L)+1 octave. If 'ignore non-existent chord note' is set, notes with Ch(L+3) will not even appear in the phrase. For 4-note chords Ch(L+3) becomes the 7th note. Sorry for this stupid mathematical notation, but chord notes must be referenced to somehow.
I will update the status of the ongoing fixes in this topic.
Thanks!
Attila
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 754 posts since 27 Nov, 2011
ah okay that makes sense. I probably created the phrase with the chord set to C which is how I got Ch(L)-1.
Anyway glad to hear you're going to address the bass note problem. Hopefully it works with the "spread out chord notes" variation
Anyway glad to hear you're going to address the bass note problem. Hopefully it works with the "spread out chord notes" variation
