Instruments Native To Your Host

[BONES]

maybe it is incorrect, but an experienced Orion user told me (while we've been doing a track in his studio) that it is impossible to sinply copy a pattern from one track to another.
He had to open the piano-roll of the pattern and copy all notes inside to the clipboard, then to create a new pattern on the other track, to open the piano-roll and to paste the notes inside.

Well he didn't explain it terribly well. You just copy from one place and paste to another. If he is too focussed on the Playlist, for whatever reason, that is down to him not using the software in the most efficient manner. I get that all the time with combustion [the software I work with], people come from another app and, because combustion is flexible enought to accomodate several different styles of workkflow, they are able to use it the same way they use the other app. That's fine but it will always take them twice as long as me because I use the software the way it was designed to be used.
P.S. I'm not being critical, just making an observation that too few people take the time to learn anything properly. i.e. they want everything to work the way they know which really narrows the possiblity of finding something better. I'm sure I am guilty of this myself.

[vurt]

you can also copy from one sfs to another say you come up with something that will work with that last track,saves all synth parameters too

[gruberman]

Bones, I'm sure OP can do everything FLS can. I've tried the OP demo once in a while (when there's been a big update).

I'm used to work in a certain way and it's different from OP's workflow. How do you select all notes without using the square tool? How do you delete a bad recording?

Small stuff like that.

[jens]

tbh I don't know Orion good enough to understand what you mean - thus I guess it's just very different from what I am used to.

With the sequencers I am used to you simply click on a clip/pattern in the arrange-editor (what is called playlist in Orion) hit crtl on your computer-keyboard and drag and drop it to where you want it. Everything else will feel clumsy for me (and probably for a lot of others) and I think that's the reason why a lot of people are putting Orion down as a sequencer - I don't say it's clumsy I just say it feels like to me

[BONES]

If you want to affect all the notes in a pattern there is no need to select them at all. i.e. if there is no selection, whatever you do will work on the whole pattern. As for bad recordings - well, you'll have to ask somebody else about that.

BTW, do you think sfs stands for Stupid f**king Song?

[bluedad]

I have to say, being used to Cubarse, I tried the Orion demo and was very confused (doesn't take much), so I gave up.

I always found Orion to be very easy and friendly to work in.
I usually do my pop stuff in cubase, which is about 95%
of my output. the spacy stuff w\o guitar or vocals is done in orion.

[bluedad]

BTW, do you think sfs stands for Stupid f**king Song?

in my case, most of the time

[gruberman]

If you want to affect all the notes in a pattern there is no need to select them at all. i.e. if there is no selection, whatever you do will work on the whole pattern. As for bad recordings - well, you'll have to ask somebody else about that.

BTW, do you think sfs stands for Stupid f**king Song?

Yes.

[vurt]

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BTW, do you think sfs stands for Stupid f**king Song?

well as ive only heard a couple of your tunes id rather not comment here.

[Sicklecell666]

Kriminal quotheted:From track i assume you mean synth?

all you need to do is click 'copy all patterns', the click on the other synth, and click paste. no need to open piano roll at all Wink

Not to mention you can simply route the midi from the target synth to the synth you want to share the midi pattern with..That's what I always do before I copy the pattern over, & that option is built into the vst wrapper on every synth. A quick & easy way to share midi.

Those with a gripe against the pattern based nature of Orion don't realize that each pattern can be in excess of 999 bars long

I use XR-909, Drum Rack (I like to layer those two together), Screamer, Ultran, & Wasp. I can't get a track fleshed out quicker using another host in twice the time it takes me in Orion.

And one other thing: Alot of ppl here ask why no one ever talks about Orion here, it must not be good, blah, blah..

well..

Most threads discussing hosts here revolve around PROBLEMS, not arse licking Calf Worship..I truly think the reason that you don't see Orion mentioned here as much is because it's users are actually happy using it & are doing projects with it instead of pelting each other & thier hosts in here with rotten fruit. Of course, I handle lots of rotten fruit as well, but I can't think of the last time I posted a complaint about Orion if I ever have. Every problem I have had with it was user based ignorance which was swiftly overcome by RTFM..

Having said that, about the ONLY thing I would like to see in Orion is an improvement on it's automation drawing techniques; I'd really like to see spline editing used instead of the pencil & line tools, but you can just route your controls to CC & not draw anything as well, I just like to draw my data in personally.

I think it also intimidates ppl to open Orion & see an empty screen with no Christmas lights

That can drastically change within about 3 clicks & you're building your next monster track.

[Kriminal]

OK, forget Orion, now lets hear/see some more views about Fruity and whatever other hosts have native synths

[tetraplan]

I'm getting more and more into the signal generators of AudioMulch.
Using the low-level instruments (TestTone, 10Harmonics -an additive oscilator- and RissetTones) can turn AM into a flexible modular synth.
The high-level stuff (BassLine and Drums) are very basic but can easily be used in multiple instances to increase polyphony.
Not sure if BubbleBlower (granular sample-player) is high, low or mid-level but it's impressive.
Sequencing takes some geting used to but it works really well.

Groet, Erik

[Sicklecell666]

OK, forget Orion, now lets hear/see some more views about Fruity and whatever other hosts have native synths

I agree..How many demo synths came in your host?

[CypherOne]

model e
vb-1
and some others I forget.

needless to say, I was made up

[Kriminal]

model e
vb-1
and some others I forget.

needless to say, I was made up

You get Model E with Cubasis? blimey, the version i got free with my soundcard 4 years ago didnt even have VST (i dont think so anyway)