Is there any other way of not using a Kick Drum in music or anything bass?
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SouthernHemisphere SouthernHemisphere https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392368
- KVRist
- 37 posts since 21 Jan, 2017 from Freeport, Lucaya, Grand Bahama, The Bahamas
I'm getting tired of using the bass sounds as a main element of having that feeling sound in a track. It's getting to generic. Is that the only way us humans can portray sound and the way we make our songs?
This question has been on my mind. "Why are us humans so slow in understanding sound more?"
Yeah I get that we don't have the "technology" yet which is a lie.
I just feel like I want to try something different instead of using the Kick Drum or a Bass sound to cover up the track feeling. There has to be way more than the human range for us to hear, if anyone is spiritual can we build sound off from that sort of spectrum? Instead of the physical spectrum if it's possible to happen. - Must be religious to answer that question.
This question has been on my mind. "Why are us humans so slow in understanding sound more?"
Yeah I get that we don't have the "technology" yet which is a lie.
I just feel like I want to try something different instead of using the Kick Drum or a Bass sound to cover up the track feeling. There has to be way more than the human range for us to hear, if anyone is spiritual can we build sound off from that sort of spectrum? Instead of the physical spectrum if it's possible to happen. - Must be religious to answer that question.
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- KVRian
- 1000 posts since 25 Feb, 2008 from Sydney, Australia
You can use whatever you want.
Charlie clouser, I've heard him use what sounded like a Stapler as a "bass" drum.
However, a really deep, low bass, with lots of volume/amplitude, will sound "more powerful" than one that doesn't have these qualities, in the grand scheme of things, and it has been this way for millennia.
Charlie clouser, I've heard him use what sounded like a Stapler as a "bass" drum.
However, a really deep, low bass, with lots of volume/amplitude, will sound "more powerful" than one that doesn't have these qualities, in the grand scheme of things, and it has been this way for millennia.
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an-electric-heart an-electric-heart https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=182734
- KVRAF
- 2513 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand
I too feel that bass frequencies are generic... 100hz... man, give me a break
... don't even get me started on 60hz 
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRist
- 159 posts since 2 Feb, 2017
Have you ever listened to the birds singing at dawn, the Dawn Chorus? Sounds gorgeous and not a drop of bass anywhere. Have you ever heard a sitar playing an Indian raga? No bass, brilliant sound. Ambient music, probably some low sounds but no kick, possibly no drums. Lots of music for solo violin, no bass, no drums there. Classical guitar music, no bass or drums. Nearly all folk music has no bass or drums.
You've obviously limited yourself to listening to a very restricted range of sounds. We're not all that limited
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Steve
You've obviously limited yourself to listening to a very restricted range of sounds. We're not all that limited
Steve
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Winstontaneous Winstontaneous https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=98336
- KVRAF
- 2593 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Another Green World
but...
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- KVRAF
- 2630 posts since 16 Jan, 2013
It sounds like you're coming at this from a dance music angle. So to put it into an appropriate frame of reference check out Kaito. He has released beatless versions of some of his albums. Maybe that's the kind of thing you're looking for.
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- KVRian
- 550 posts since 15 Aug, 2011 from Teesside
Technically... Sound is sort of spiritual. It doesn't exist as in have physical body of it's own. What 'exists' is the thing vibrating.SouthernHemisphere wrote:. There has to be way more than the human range for us to hear, if anyone is spiritual can we build sound off from that sort of spectrum? Instead of the physical spectrum if it's possible to happen. - Must be religious to answer that question.
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- KVRAF
- 2285 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan
As everybody above says, there's no need to use bass of any sort. I'd add to this is that if having bass limits you, don't add it. Simple, eh? Plus, not using it might be enough to mark you as an innovator. Rules just give you predictable (consistent, even boring) products, and we have enough of those already!
And if you feel a track needs some bass frequencies, just add some.* But you can also do it creatively -- maybe pitch shift an echo of some sort? Maybe a resonant band-pass filter set for a low frequency? Maybe add something that sympathetically resonates to whatever low frequencies are present. Maybe even something genuinely creative, not just the silly ideas I just mentioned!
* See my previous point about following rules. But here, I'm talking about listening to the track's wishes, not some stupid rule of a style. After all, only a barbarian thinks the arbitrary rules of their tribe are laws of nature!
And if you feel a track needs some bass frequencies, just add some.* But you can also do it creatively -- maybe pitch shift an echo of some sort? Maybe a resonant band-pass filter set for a low frequency? Maybe add something that sympathetically resonates to whatever low frequencies are present. Maybe even something genuinely creative, not just the silly ideas I just mentioned!
* See my previous point about following rules. But here, I'm talking about listening to the track's wishes, not some stupid rule of a style. After all, only a barbarian thinks the arbitrary rules of their tribe are laws of nature!
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