if your music sucks, it has nothing to do with your tinnitus. spend more time worrying about chord progressions than this shit.
you should also ask your family doctor to refer you to a mental health expert, as - taking your original post at face value - you appear to have some pretty severe emotional problems that should be addressed now, before life really deals you a hand worth crying about.
Honnestly, can a Tinnitus make unable to mix as audio engineer ?
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- KVRist
- 159 posts since 2 Feb, 2017
Put it this way. Tinnitus is like having an unwanted sound permanently playing in your ears. Do you think that making/mixing your music while there is another sound permanently playing in the background is good? Of course it isn't. If you're always hearing things other than what you're trying to listen to that's not good. You have to learn to compensate.
But it doesn't stop people making music. If you can hear the music then stop whining and just get on with making some music.
Steve (only one working ear, bad tinnitus, still making music...well I call it music anyway
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But it doesn't stop people making music. If you can hear the music then stop whining and just get on with making some music.
Steve (only one working ear, bad tinnitus, still making music...well I call it music anyway
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- KVRAF
- 2448 posts since 12 Sep, 2004
You said:
So here's my theory: everyone that loves music, makes music, has loved and made music for years and years has some degree of hearing loss. It is inevitable. When I was 10, 11, 12, 13 I used to play drums for 2 or 3 hours per day, either by myself or in band/jam situations, and with no hearing protection. Eventually the parents gave me a pair of industrial strength ear plugs, which is like wearing a condom inside your ear... it just ain't right, but eventually you get used to it. I just remember how much my ears would ring for hours or even into the next day. My father has had permanent damage in his right ear from years of music playing and listening, so I shoulda known better, but young people are indestructible. I did use the plugs after all, but over the years I still frequently put the ears in danger with too loud headphone sessions and standing too close to the PA speakers etc.
Recently... say within the last 4 years... I started to take my hearing more seriously simply because I want to do my best to produce quality mixes of my stuff. I started wearing ear plugs in situations where I knew I would be listening to loud live music for extended periods. Or in those cases where I didn't have plugs while listening to some loud band I would just take frequent breaks to rest the ears from constant overstimulation. When listening to music on phones or buds I keep it low, or if I turn it up I only do so for very short periods. When I'm recording/playing/mixing my own music I do so at very low volumes, and rest my ears often. I might even take a day or two off here and there, which I think also helps with the creative process.
At this point, and surprisingly to me after all those years of loud music, I think I have pretty good hearing. I can hear lots of detail in my mixes and other music at very low volumes on headphones. Within the last couple of years when the train pulls into the station I have to plug my ears with my fingers because the screech of the brakes is loud and painful, which was never a problem for me before (or maybe I just ignored it). I'm convinced after several years of protecting and resting my ears that I've restored some of my hearing... more likely the frequent quiet time and resting day-to-day has just made my ears more sensitive.
You also said:
Then you said:I saw an ENT some days ago, he made a serious "washing" of my ear.
Now my hearing is really better, it Sound nearly the same than my ear. So I think my hearing is okay.
You are obsessed with your ears. It's an obsession, and you need to find a way to stop obsessing. You're driving yourself nuts, and maybe kvr a little too.However I didn't say that I have a perfect hearing, but I said that I have a normal hearing (thanks to audiogram...).
So here's my theory: everyone that loves music, makes music, has loved and made music for years and years has some degree of hearing loss. It is inevitable. When I was 10, 11, 12, 13 I used to play drums for 2 or 3 hours per day, either by myself or in band/jam situations, and with no hearing protection. Eventually the parents gave me a pair of industrial strength ear plugs, which is like wearing a condom inside your ear... it just ain't right, but eventually you get used to it. I just remember how much my ears would ring for hours or even into the next day. My father has had permanent damage in his right ear from years of music playing and listening, so I shoulda known better, but young people are indestructible. I did use the plugs after all, but over the years I still frequently put the ears in danger with too loud headphone sessions and standing too close to the PA speakers etc.
Recently... say within the last 4 years... I started to take my hearing more seriously simply because I want to do my best to produce quality mixes of my stuff. I started wearing ear plugs in situations where I knew I would be listening to loud live music for extended periods. Or in those cases where I didn't have plugs while listening to some loud band I would just take frequent breaks to rest the ears from constant overstimulation. When listening to music on phones or buds I keep it low, or if I turn it up I only do so for very short periods. When I'm recording/playing/mixing my own music I do so at very low volumes, and rest my ears often. I might even take a day or two off here and there, which I think also helps with the creative process.
At this point, and surprisingly to me after all those years of loud music, I think I have pretty good hearing. I can hear lots of detail in my mixes and other music at very low volumes on headphones. Within the last couple of years when the train pulls into the station I have to plug my ears with my fingers because the screech of the brakes is loud and painful, which was never a problem for me before (or maybe I just ignored it). I'm convinced after several years of protecting and resting my ears that I've restored some of my hearing... more likely the frequent quiet time and resting day-to-day has just made my ears more sensitive.
You also said:
Do this: if you care about... nay are obsessed with... your hearing then start taking care of it now. When you go to a club or any loud venue wear ear plugs. The foam squeegee type should be good enough in my experience. Yes, you will be the Ear Plug Nerd, but it's for a good cause. Tell your friends you need to wear plugs because you're working on a hot remix and you need your ears to be in tip-top shape to be at your best. The label's counting on you, or something like that. When you do go to a club, use the plugs for an hour... then take them out... you will be astounded at how freaking loud live/loud/club music can be... Good music and good vocals and good beats and good melodies and good musicianship are all still good without the painfully searing highs... and those painfully searing highs just hammer the hell out of your hearing mechanism. While you're at it, start listening to music on low volumes... not like bat sonar low, but let's say "boring low"... like at a level that you would expect Ear Plug Nerds to listen to music at. You will get used to those volumes, and you may find that you're "listening harder" and are more focused on processing what's coming into your ears rather than just getting flooded with constant loud sound. You can turn it up here and there when the music calls for it, just don't do it for extended periods.I can go in a club without having any pain... I have vibrations in the ears simply.
You need to limit that rez, bro.
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- KVRAF
- 3506 posts since 12 May, 2011
I respectfully repeat:NotreDame wrote:Thanks, I am thinking about it, but what I ask is does tinnitus mean That my hearing is bad ?
Go to a professional, not a bunch quacks (that's us, folks!).Googly Smythe wrote:There are a lot of sites out there that contain much info about coping with and living with tinnitus - look them up.
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As a sidenote, madness mental health issues are often defined as asking the same question and expecting a different answer...
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
why? why do you keep starting new threads? why should the old threads not be got rid of since you keep starting duplicate new ones instead?NotreDame wrote:Well...I know I made several topics about it, but please don't delete this one, or delete the other topics...
Seriously, no matter how much sympathy people have for your situation, your behaviour in repeating the same thread over and over again is not doing you any favours at all, on any level.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 112 posts since 22 May, 2017
Hi ! I understand your message when saying that I'm making too much...
But in the other hand you didn't know what I experimented these days.
Well, some big news : I was having a lot of tinnitus, but I was sick at the same time, I was vomiting, etc.
I was living with a BIG BIG stress, I was panic since two days. So that's why I looked like a crazy.
I have been to the doctor today. He said that I was looking very stressed, and he gave me some medics for relaxing and also one for treating my disease.
I think that thanks to him and to the nature (I think that all this time passed during the days healed me), I am in a much better state.
My tinnitus is sooo better. I had tinnitus in two ears, now I have only in one. And the volume dicreased a LOT !!
So yes I am really happy that I am healed (yes I have still a little tinnitus but it is so little that it is not boring, even for mixing it would not be a problem).
You know, when you have loud tinnitus, and you read on the internet that "it will never disappear", you don't imagine the intensity of the fear you can feel.
But yes, I think that diseases + stress (psychological problems) can create or at least make tinnitus so harsh and so worst that it is.
But in the other hand you didn't know what I experimented these days.
Well, some big news : I was having a lot of tinnitus, but I was sick at the same time, I was vomiting, etc.
I was living with a BIG BIG stress, I was panic since two days. So that's why I looked like a crazy.
I have been to the doctor today. He said that I was looking very stressed, and he gave me some medics for relaxing and also one for treating my disease.
I think that thanks to him and to the nature (I think that all this time passed during the days healed me), I am in a much better state.
My tinnitus is sooo better. I had tinnitus in two ears, now I have only in one. And the volume dicreased a LOT !!
So yes I am really happy that I am healed (yes I have still a little tinnitus but it is so little that it is not boring, even for mixing it would not be a problem).
You know, when you have loud tinnitus, and you read on the internet that "it will never disappear", you don't imagine the intensity of the fear you can feel.
But yes, I think that diseases + stress (psychological problems) can create or at least make tinnitus so harsh and so worst that it is.
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- KVRAF
- 2726 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
Glad to hear you're feeling a bit more chipper now NotreDame, though of course bear in mind that your stress (and associated possible tinnitus) will go up and down at various points in life.
As I put on page 1 here, tinnitus is very much a psychological problem as well as a physical one. Research more around holistic ideas for treatment: some of these may help you to reduce tinnitus and also mental / stress problems at the same time. Either way, it can't do any harm if you're well read up about different aspects of the condition!
As I put on page 1 here, tinnitus is very much a psychological problem as well as a physical one. Research more around holistic ideas for treatment: some of these may help you to reduce tinnitus and also mental / stress problems at the same time. Either way, it can't do any harm if you're well read up about different aspects of the condition!
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- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
One thing at least is in your side: the time. If you are just 20, its very likely that new innovation, wich will give relief, if not cure, will be made during your lifetime.
If I was 20, I would give my other ear. Think what all you can acomplish, in- or outside the music. There are different arts, and even in music business many things you can do. And many composers write music without a sound.
If I was 20, I would give my other ear. Think what all you can acomplish, in- or outside the music. There are different arts, and even in music business many things you can do. And many composers write music without a sound.
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- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 112 posts since 22 May, 2017
I don't understand you (I am french...) basically you mean that I could another thing than music ?Harry_HH wrote:One thing at least is in your side: the time. If you are just 20, its very likely that new innovation, wich will give relief, if not cure, will be made during your lifetime.
If I was 20, I would give my other ear. Think what all you can acomplish, in- or outside the music. There are different arts, and even in music business many things you can do. And many composers write music without a sound.
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- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 112 posts since 22 May, 2017
dark water wrote:Glad to hear you're feeling a bit more chipper now NotreDame, though of course bear in mind that your stress (and associated possible tinnitus) will go up and down at various points in life.
As I put on page 1 here, tinnitus is very much a psychological problem as well as a physical one. Research more around holistic ideas for treatment: some of these may help you to reduce tinnitus and also mental / stress problems at the same time. Either way, it can't do any harm if you're well read up about different aspects of the condition!
Thanks again for your message !
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- KVRAF
- 10154 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
I have tinnitus in one ear with severe high frequency roll off, doesnt bother me or take away from my enjoyment of making or listening to music.
If youre into Merzbow you should quite enjoy it
If youre into Merzbow you should quite enjoy it
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- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Composing is music, isn't it? Developing music software is part of the value chain, as are e.g. managing music, or role of the intendent etc. etc.NotreDame wrote:I don't understand you (I am french...) basically you mean that I could another thing than music ?Harry_HH wrote:One thing at least is in your side: the time. If you are just 20, its very likely that new innovation, wich will give relief, if not cure, will be made during your lifetime.
If I was 20, I would give my other ear. Think what all you can acomplish, in- or outside the music. There are different arts, and even in music business many things you can do. And many composers write music without a sound.
Or you can do something else, which interests you.