Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

[AnX]

I think hardware is probably bought today for different reasons, like using the instrument for performances, or when it comes to vintage-analog synths, as collector's items.

If someone wants to buy a real piano they'll do that, even if there are plugins sounding as good or better.

Richard

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

[db3]

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

Not all pianos are created equal.

[AnX]

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

Not all pianos are created equal.

Your point being?

[db3]

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

Not all pianos are created equal.

Your point being?

Some of the world's best pianos, sampled with some of the world' best mics, using some of the world's best studio equipment, may sound somewhat better in your project than if you had any old piano to hand.

[Richard_Synapse]

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

I'm not saying it does, this was hypothetical. There is cases where artificial is better than real though, for instance good artificial reverbs work much better with certain source material than any real room (+speakers & mics) ever would.

Richard

[AnX]

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

Not all pianos are created equal.

Your point being?

Some of the world's best pianos, sampled with some of the world' best mics, using some of the world's best studio equipment, may sound somewhat better in your project than if you had any old piano to hand.

Way off the mark.....

If i have a "insert your piano here" piano, and a vst of said piano, how exactly is the vst going to sound "better" ?

[AnX]

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

I'm not saying it does, this was hypothetical. There is cases where artificial is better than real though, for instance good artificial reverbs work much better with certain source material than any real room (+speakers & mics) ever would.

Richard

Not better, different.

If i recorded a drumkit in a gym hall, then recordered it dry in a studio with an artificial reverb modelled on that gym, how would it sound better?

I would record in the gym hall because i wanted that sound.

A minimoog vst is never going to sound "better" than the hardware. It may, one day, sound identical, but never better. It may have advantages that allow it sound different, but not "better".

[Dasheesh]

digital is not the word you guys are looking for, artificial is the word you are looking for. Digital sounds are superb when it produces a musical sound done to a high degree. Some quick thoughts on this.

are you looking for a musical instrument that you love to play, or are you looking for software your favorite single 20 something marketing genius told you to buy? People used to buy instruments because they had a genuine appreciation for the instrument. Digital done to a high degree, that sounds musical, and is fun to play is hard to find. It's rare. It takes someone that knows what musical sounds like.

[JunSev]

the best way I think to define all this is that the vst sounds very good and original with its own character, I mean the fact that it doesn't sounds 100% like the hardware doesn't mean is bad or inferior in any aspects.

I have to say this because some people defend religiously the superiority of hardware over software, is a nonsense honestly.

if we think about, the softwares has been a great opportunity to all producers, with the pass of the times has improved for better.

[Dasheesh]

the best way I think to define all this is that the vst sounds very good and original with its own character, I mean the fact that it doesn't sounds 100% like the hardware doesn't mean is bad or inferior in any aspects.

I have to say this because some people defend religiously the superiority of hardware over software, is a nonsense honestly.

if we think about, the softwares has been a great opportunity to all producers, with the pass of the times has improved for better.

You said tha better then I did. Software is getting good. There are software instruments done right. They are hard to find, no doubt. But, 90% of people out there wouldn’t be able to tell you when something is done right anymore anyway. They do what they are told. It’s all they know.

[AnX]

I use both, and lots of them. Each has its place.

[brok landers]

I think hardware is probably bought today for different reasons, like using the instrument for performances, or when it comes to vintage-analog synths, as collector's items.

If someone wants to buy a real piano they'll do that, even if there are plugins sounding as good or better.

Richard

How would a piano vst sound 'better' than an actual piano?

quite possible.as soon as it is mi'ced, that is. it so much depends on the piano itself, its condition, the temerature and the mic'ing, that f.e. pianotec can give you far more better results than a real piano.

[DuX]

Most of it, generally, is about performance. Whatever you use. People used a couple of MB sampled pianos on Roland keyboards, for example. Still sounds great. People are too obsessed with "moar" and less with "good" these days. Make some really good tunes, mate, everything else is just crap.

[Teksonik]

Yep the Unison on a MiniMoog is far better than that found on The Legend. The 4 note polyphony of the hardware MiniMoog is impressive as well.

The question shouldn't be can the software emulate the hardware but can the hardware emulate the software......of course not.

[AnX]

Yep the Unison on a MiniMoog is far better than that found on The Legend. The 4 note polyphony of the hardware MiniMoog is impressive as well.

The question shouldn't be can the software emulate the hardware but can the hardware emulate the software......of course not.

As the MM has none of those, "better" is not relevant.

Noise hum and tuning drift are an absolute pain in the arse, but devs seem to think its an important part of the sound. Ask anyone who used/uses old hardware and they will tell you these things are not "better".

Works both ways.