One Synth Challenge #104 - Zebralette by u-he (Photonic Wins!)
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- KVRAF
- 1837 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
Question for the gallery....Is using the free Airwindows coloration/console emulation stuff within the spirit of the competition?
We jumped the fence because it was a fence not be cause the grass was greener.
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- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
I may also translate my flute, but I'm not sure, yet. I'm not that interested in doing this sort of stuff with it, but couldn't resist with my "choir". It's actually been a single singer's voice where I snapped single waveforms for a whole octave. What excited me about it is to maintain a more natural tone as you go up the notes. Unfortunately there's not enough control over the keyfollowing, because you can't explicitly say from which key to which key they map, but it's certainly good enough.doctorbob wrote:Thanks Mr. T! Just didn't find the .exe ... yeah, wavetables will be fine. Did dev work with the Gravis Ultrasound folk - got a free one to play with - Windows 95 times! I did a choir too with it - worked OK.
So, I wonder what I will do with this beast! Gregorian chants? Filmic stuff? I fancy doing some ambisonic type things too - but it will depend how quickly I can get a track together with the right sounds to make good use of the tech.
How far do you think we can go with the wavetable stuff?
dB
I did the same thing with my own flutes, which you already know from at least one of my tracks, possibly two?! The MUX tracks (Halloween last year, I think, and this year's free pick OSC).
Other than that, I doubt it will be enough to really get the gregorian stuff down, unless you'd go to lower qualities (reduced bitrate). But I haven't spent enough time to know, yet, how high the resolution actually goes...nor did I care to investigate.
Anyway, LOADS to play with!!!
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- KVRAF
- 2390 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
Yeah, should be fun .... might just get my daughter to record some flutes for me (hehe!!!). Her fav composers are Teleman and more contempoary Ian Clarke. She plays Maya with her advanced pupils, and teaches the various techniques required to play this piece. Getting those controlled bends/slides is not so easy! She can play the piano part too, but for live performances she just gets a friend to do that part!
http://www.miyazawa.com/media-library/v ... my-porter/
Enjoy!
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http://www.miyazawa.com/media-library/v ... my-porter/
Enjoy!
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 31 May, 2017
Your daughter is very talented. My kids enjoyed watching this. Thanks for sharing!doctorbob wrote:Yeah, should be fun .... might just get my daughter to record some flutes for me (hehe!!!). Her fav composers are Teleman and more contempoary Ian Clarke. She plays Maya with her advanced pupils, and teaches the various techniques required to play this piece. Getting those controlled bends/slides is not so easy! She can play the piano part too, but for live performances she just gets a friend to do that part!
http://www.miyazawa.com/media-library/v ... my-porter/
Enjoy!
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 31 May, 2017
Can anyone tell me if wav2zebra or blueberry thing have a mac version or if not is there a mac alternative? I can't seem to figure it out from my searches for some reason.
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- KVRAF
- 2390 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
@Local Man ... errrm .... not my daughter playing this time - but she can play this piece very well!
This is her at 15 years of age ( 17 years ago - she's a lot better now!) - backing off an old Yamaha keyboard! Recorded on my old Tascam 244.
https://soundcloud.com/doctorbob/popshuffle
Enjoy some more flute
dB
This is her at 15 years of age ( 17 years ago - she's a lot better now!) - backing off an old Yamaha keyboard! Recorded on my old Tascam 244.
https://soundcloud.com/doctorbob/popshuffle
Enjoy some more flute
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- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Wow, Bob, that's fantastic! I'd have been over the moon then myself...what a wonderful daughter you have, incredibly talented. Congrats & Greetings! Pffff...gives me almost tears of joy, I'm really happy for you all.
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- KVRAF
- 2390 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
Here's a few other tracks ... some sax, one a blues song collab with BubbaBlues from the good old US of A (again when she was 15 - musos on IUMA!). Decorating Blues has piano improvised on the DX-11 by her then piano teacher.
https://soundcloud.com/doctorbob/sets/amy
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PS So should I grab some sounds from her and whack them into Zebralette???
https://soundcloud.com/doctorbob/sets/amy
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PS So should I grab some sounds from her and whack them into Zebralette???
- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
That should be more difficult that you think, I'm afraid.
The trick is to isolate a pure single wave cycle for each note to really get a brilliant table.
The trick is to isolate a pure single wave cycle for each note to really get a brilliant table.
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- KVRAF
- 2390 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
Yeah looks tricky - 128 samples points per cell - maybe I'll not try to be so ambitious ... still a lot of work to do as it is ... it's a good synth anyway -Taron wrote:That should be more difficult that you think, I'm afraid.
The trick is to isolate a pure single wave cycle for each note to really get a brilliant table.
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- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Ehehe, it's actually super fun and you only need to pick out 12 notes. It's kind of exciting to sense which wave represents the tone most significantly and then what is the equivalent of that fragment in the next note and so on. It's almost Zen in a way.
128 only, really? Hmmm...amazing how well it reproduces the voices for my choir. Did you check it out?
128 only, really? Hmmm...amazing how well it reproduces the voices for my choir. Did you check it out?
- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
Cool, nice little choon ya got there.baalisoda wrote:Hello Friends,
My submission for this month's OSC. A simple jolly track with smidgen of sinister tone(s) from 80s.
https://soundcloud.com/baalisoda/tooth-ache
I have used 9 instances of Zebralette for this track. Plugins used are both native (FL studio) and third party (free). Following is the list of effects plugins that I have used for this project,
Fruity Parametric EQ 2 = 5
Classic Delay = 5
OldSkoolVerb = 5
NastyVCS = 1
Nova-67P = 3
Fruity Reverb 2 = 1
TDR Nova = 1
ThrillseekerLA = 2
ThrillseekerXTC Black = 1
BootEQ = 1
BaxterEQ = 1
Maximus = 1
Fruity Stereo Enhancer = 1
Ferric TDS = 1
TP Basslane = 1
LoudMax = 1
Classic Master Limiter = 1
Thanks for listening and I hope you like it.
Cheers!
- KVRist
- 239 posts since 7 Apr, 2017 from Fremont, California
Thank you so much for the kind words, Sir!Russell Grand wrote: Cool, nice little choon ya got there.
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- KVRAF
- 2390 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
When I dropped a sample onto the first cell, is ended up being a just a 128 sample ( a few msec long), and playing it just was a buzz (not surprising when you cycle so few sample points).Taron wrote:Ehehe, it's actually super fun and you only need to pick out 12 notes. It's kind of exciting to sense which wave represents the tone most significantly and then what is the equivalent of that fragment in the next note and so on. It's almost Zen in a way.
128 only, really? Hmmm...amazing how well it reproduces the voices for my choir. Did you check it out?
Maybe I am doing something wrong - how long can a sample be? Maybe mine's too long and messing the software up. I'll try a smaller chunk and see what happens.
Not had alisten to your choir, will do so when I have some time - looking after 3 yr old at the moment - little time!
Cheers,
dB (I'll get there in the end!!!)
- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
I'm trying to explain it up there, but I guess it takes some experience to understand what I'm talking about:
A single wave cycle is a tiny snippet of the wave, like a single sine wave, you know. Load your sample into an editor like Audition or the likes. Try to find a place in the sample that sounds most like the heart of the sound. Zoom into it until you can see single waves, so to say. Then try to find a wave that ideal starts at zero, goes to the top, goes to the bottom and comes back up to end at zero again. It doesn't have to be zero, though it would be ideal. It's just important that the ends meet, you know.
Depending on the complexity of the sound, this could have a number of smaller waves inside the biggest wave, which would be at the actual note frequency of the sound. Ideally you find a segment that has those smaller waves cycle properly, too, or at least somewhat gently through the ends of your big segment.
Look at this table of my flute, for example: This is out of Audition. You can see 9 segments, each one represents a cell of the wavetable. Each one is taken from it's own sample file. You are looking at the collection of 9 different notes and their chosen wave segments. You can also see how they become shorter as the note goes higher. The wave file actually saves those markers, which allows MuLab to actually understand this as a wavetable, when you load it into the multi oscillator, or what it was called. Haven't done that in a long time.
Anyway, You can see that I tried to choose the most similar wave segments from each note.
It takes some time, but...yeah...it's good fun and very rewarding!
A single wave cycle is a tiny snippet of the wave, like a single sine wave, you know. Load your sample into an editor like Audition or the likes. Try to find a place in the sample that sounds most like the heart of the sound. Zoom into it until you can see single waves, so to say. Then try to find a wave that ideal starts at zero, goes to the top, goes to the bottom and comes back up to end at zero again. It doesn't have to be zero, though it would be ideal. It's just important that the ends meet, you know.
Depending on the complexity of the sound, this could have a number of smaller waves inside the biggest wave, which would be at the actual note frequency of the sound. Ideally you find a segment that has those smaller waves cycle properly, too, or at least somewhat gently through the ends of your big segment.
Look at this table of my flute, for example: This is out of Audition. You can see 9 segments, each one represents a cell of the wavetable. Each one is taken from it's own sample file. You are looking at the collection of 9 different notes and their chosen wave segments. You can also see how they become shorter as the note goes higher. The wave file actually saves those markers, which allows MuLab to actually understand this as a wavetable, when you load it into the multi oscillator, or what it was called. Haven't done that in a long time.
Anyway, You can see that I tried to choose the most similar wave segments from each note.
It takes some time, but...yeah...it's good fun and very rewarding!
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